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#252660 - 01/06/09 01:53 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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Quote:
Originally posted by jwyvern:
Here's the Ty3 Concert Grand playing the PCreek midi...How's it sound?


Not bad. Heard worse.

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#252661 - 01/06/09 04:29 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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And for for a shameless promotion.

Here's a Tyros 2 playing back my own Sampled Concert Grand.
CLICK ME

Which can be purchased here.
CLICK ME

Regards.
James.

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#252662 - 01/06/09 04:35 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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James... is that the default amount of 40 on the reverb?

The piano sounds quite nice, but I can't get past the reverb it is drenched in. It kind of blurs the detail in what otherwise seems a considerable improvement on the stock piano...

How many MB is it, BTW?
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#252663 - 01/06/09 04:54 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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Not likely, and to be honest I can't remember what the setting is at.

It's open a good bit for sure, but like anything it can be adjusted. Personally, I have a thing for a wet sound as it make is sound more live than recorded, but hey... each to their own.

A piano is like a pretty girl. Everyone has their tastes and preferences.

As for size, I believe it's just under 90MB. Yeah, it's a big sucker :-)

Regards.
James.

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#252664 - 01/06/09 05:17 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
And for for a shameless promotion.

Here's a Tyros 2 playing back my own Sampled Concert Grand.
CLICK ME



Very nice. Like Diki, I find the reverb a little too much, but I must say I really like the mid and high end...very robust, yet still nice and punchy.

It must be even nicer with a weighted action.

Ian
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#252665 - 01/06/09 05:51 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
And for for a shameless promotion.

Here's a Tyros 2 playing back my own Sampled Concert Grand.
CLICK ME

Which can be purchased here.
CLICK ME

Regards.
James.



James a spendid job!!...I really enjoyed listening to your songs...Bravo!!

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#252666 - 01/06/09 06:48 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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Two quick little tunes for the road :-)
This is me playing my latest 5 Layer Yamaha C2 Piano.

Click Me

And the last one is my Yamaha CP 80 which is again a 5 layer Piano. This is also the same sequence I recorded for the first 5 Layer above only this time with the CP80 piano.

Click Me

These are big boys (over 400MB) though and only available for the OASYS.

Got to love that tune though :-)

Regards.
James.

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#252667 - 01/06/09 07:04 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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James again ......

Very nice & both were very different regarding the sound......
#1 bright & crisp.....#2 a bit darker, warmer & mellow.


Thanx for sharing your work

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#252668 - 01/06/09 08:09 PM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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James,
Very, Very nice work indeed!

I loved the demos. My kind of music for sure! Inspires me to practice more...

Thanks for sharing here...and see you on the PA, M3, Sampling etc forums...

Lee
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#252669 - 01/07/09 05:04 AM Re: T3 pianos on Purgatory Creek
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Originally posted by Diki:
Thanks, John... Very kind of you to do this.

To my ears, it reminds me a bit of the older Korg piano samples. There's a very pronounced quick decay of the initial sound, very 'spiky'. IMHO, the piano doesn't really 'sing', it sort of 'barks'.

Great for cutting through a mix, but it still doesn't give me the impression of sitting at a REAL grand.

Play this file, then the UltimateGrand from the FantomX at P.Creek. That's what I'm talking about...

Would you like me to submit this file to P.Creek, John, or will you do it yourself?


I'd appreciate it if you could you submit it Diki, please. I had a look around on the site but the info doesn't exactly spring out, and any links didn't seem (to me) to lead anywhere in that respect.

Many thanks to those who commented. This piano voice has received a lot more attention because of expectations engendered by Yamaha when introducing Ty3, (and incidentally backed by what you see whenever you press the info button when the voice is loaded.)
Consequently it's surprising to me that it doesn't stack up more eg. exhibit more vibrancy on the one hand or a level of "warm refinement" (suitable for an English living room -lol!)that we might have expected.
Re cutting through the mix, yes it'll do that and I'll still use it occasionally for providing a different character (from the LiveGrand) in Jazz treatments of some songs.
The LiveGrand seems to have more presence in Ty3 than it had in Ty2 and can be made to sing more as you might want.

As suggested I've now uploaded that one as a comparison.
http://www.box.net/shared/aikeyqd9r1


Conditions are the same as with the ConcGrand, except I did Normalize the Audio (in the recorder on Ty3) The wave spikes are less prominent than with the ConcGrand and there was plenty of headroom to do it.

I prefer the Live Grand but don't use it at default settings (as the above is).
It has a bit more mid range EQ added, more noticeable reverb, and it's edited in the
PC software to exaggerate the stereo for a wider sound (lower notes progressively more to left, higher more to the right).
It can be mellowed down if needed by using the mod. wheel.

Together with a 4 speaker stereo x2 system it sounds as if there's a piano actually in the room- (like the sound of it or not)

John


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