Wow.

They better fix this sh1t REAL quick....


(Makes me glad I didn't upgrade from my PA1x!)

Well, there might be some truth to the issues listed above.
But, we must take into account that some of the users tend to load any SET they find online, including Global files from previous PA models (BIG NO-NO).

I just think it's too much Keyboard for some people!

I especially loved the poster who naively asked 'why would anyone want to trigger a fill on anything but the 'one' ?

Diki feel free to use my name ... I said it and I am far from NAIVE!!

Just the way my brain works!! I have played arranger KB's for 25 yrs and never feel the need to "Randomly" hit the fill button!! I hit it ON THE BEAT ... Therefore the "Problem" that some are talking about does not affect me.
I knew there was a reason I seldom post here!! After 8 years 'ya think I'd know better!!

It depends. Korg are using independent distributors in most countries so the quality of service and warranty conditions differs a lot. I have had a few problems with my Pa800 (a key playing with wrong velocity and a dark area on the display) but couldn't get it repaired under warranty (only a half year here in Denmark). I had the impression that the service center knew next to nothing about Korg keyboards and that their only mission was to avoid doing any repairs.

I only play for fun and would probably take my keyboard to the service center if it had a failed LED, but if you are a pro and use your keyboard every day to make money its a completely different story.

It's nothing new that Korg Italy denies a hardware problem. They did the same for a long time with the defect Pa800 sample ram. And there are still distributors that won't replace it for free!

Kind regards,
Tommy

[This message has been edited by TommyF (edited 11-13-2008).]

Attention!

Keep this in perspective...only a VERY FEW PA800/PA2XPRO have had any hardware issues at all!

All but a few owners have had any problems at all reported. Most likely a few bad circuit boards got out?

But Korg needs to step up to the plate on a few things...this being one of them.

It is a superb instrument!
Lee

IM not sure if I would believe a manufacturer. They are not going to pubicaly admit to a problem that does not involve safety. I would not drop $3200 on a keyboard based on what I have read in those threads alone. USERS are the best resource. IF even 10 users are having the SAME issues, there may or may not be a universal issue. A bad batch whatever. I won;t take a chance until those users claim Korg has fixed their issues rather then deny they exist,

JC, there is NOTHING 'random' in choosing to trigger a fill on the 'two' or the 'three'...

It's what most other arrangers handle with no problems, and a major part of using an arranger. Are you honestly trying to tell us that in 25 years of playing arrangers, you've NEVER wanted to play a pickup or half-fill..?

Limit yourself to ONLY being able to do what the arranger will let you, and your musical choices go down...

'Naive'? Apparently not... But deliberately choosing to only use a fraction of the arranger's potential (at least in regard to fills)? How would YOU describe it, then?

Diki I did not say I would not or never have used a fill on other than the top of the bar! Just stating that when I tried to emulate the problem AJ raised it did not happen for me when the fill is activated on the beat, any beat 1,2,3,4!!. If you "Randomly" activate (In the cracks) you will get the glitch !! For whatever reason it is not a problem for me!! I can understand it maybe a problem for others and yes this is unique to "Korg" arrangers.

I'd hardly call some blown LED's "serious sh*t" since the buttons themselves still operate but it would be annoying. The lockups the one poster spoke of are probably software related, not a hardware issue as he believes. I suspect the lockup issue will be addressed in the 2.0 update although Korg may not mention it in the update notes. The LED's were probably a faulty batch from a supplier and once replaced should last for years and years. The downside is of course the time it takes to have the LED's replaced.

I know all about lockups, my Yamaha 9000 Pro had more than I could count prior to Yamaha releasing a software fix. Even then Yamaha never once admitted there were any issues that caused these problems. At least Korg has acknowledged some users have had issues and asked other PA2X owners to report these problems so that they can make sure they are all remedied. That's better than a manufacturer sweeping it under the rug.

You may not be aware of this but on startup most modern keyboards do a complete diagnostic, adjust the AD/DAC's, and run a jack and audio check. Under normal conditions the user never realizes the system checks itself in this manner but when there are problems, it stands out like sore thumb. My Yamaha 9000 Pro had serious issues when it did the AD/DAC adjustment and often I'd have nothing but noise emit from the instrument, no sound at all, or worse yet extreme distortion and clipping. One might think this was a hardware issue but it was actually a serious software bug that caused these problems. Fortunately Yamaha did address some of these issues but not all the problems were remedied prior to Yamaha discontinuing the instrument.

Any instrument can be prone to failures and one should expect that these things can and do happen. The scope of the problem and how the manufacturer addresses it is shows you the type of service you can expect from that manufacturer in the future.

I've never had a hardware problem with any Korg keyboard I have owned and even with my Oasys Korg was always quick to offer bug fixes to their software. I'd like to have seen more changes to the Oasys software for added features to the sequencer and audio recorder but as far as bug fixes went, Korg couldn't be faulted.

JC, with respect, this is what you posted at Korgforums:



You can hardly blame anyone for reading this the way I took it... So what is the REAL post? Either you trigger on the 'one' 99.9% of the time, or you don't, and either you pose a question about why trigger on the 'two', or you already know darn well why?

Two forums, two totally different positions...

Me, I only have the one