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#246549 - 10/29/08 05:19 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
adimatis Offline
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so, to conclude...
how many sounds/tones inside the parts, inside the tracks, inside the division, inside the style can a roland style have?
a total of....?
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#246550 - 10/29/08 05:41 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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And, in conclusion ladies and gentleman the point of this post was...... Hmmmmm! It must be snowing somewhere. Yes, it's snowing in Pennsylvania, and if you look closely you will see a name written in the snow.

Gotta' go to work,

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#246551 - 10/29/08 05:41 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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Who really cares?
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#246552 - 10/29/08 05:44 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
adimatis Offline
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ah, before i forget... not simultaneously!
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#246553 - 10/29/08 07:28 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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Quote:
Originally posted by adimatis:
so, to conclude...
how many sounds/tones inside the parts, inside the tracks, inside the division, inside the style can a roland style have?
a total of....?


I calculated it once more:
Let us have a look at what happen if we play e.g. variation=4, chord=Maj. That's what Roland call a Division or Pattern. A Pattern can contain up to 8 Midi sequences, simultaneous played on 8 different tracks.
Each Midi sequence contains Bank Selects and a program change. So every Pattern can play 8 different tones. There are up to 54 Pattern, so up to 432 is the number of tones within one style if no further program changes occour. But this is far, far away from the reality. So this discussion is useless, I think. Important is the great flexibility of Rolands Style- Composer, Converter.
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#246554 - 10/29/08 07:41 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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What good is it how many parts are being used if you don't find the styles useful, or don't like the sound of the arranger?

The G70 seems to be an acquired taste, or there would be many more owners posting about it(and many more owners), here, or on other forums...it seems to have a scant following, although most aren't as fanatical as Fran...thankfully.

Sure, the sound is more "raw" but not everyone likes steak tartare...

Ian
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#246555 - 10/29/08 08:03 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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The G70 & E60 sound wonderful & the styles are really good & to me less repetitive then Yamaha...16 bar loops & 7th lead in make them more interesting plus 4 Intro/Endings one that you can create yourself playing which is Cool,....but not out of the box.....with some dedicated time & the fantastic Makeup tools you can do wonders to make these KB's sound great beyond what other arrangers can provide & produce....believe me I Know
btw did I mention SMF markers & a song list that Saves Transpose unlike the Yamaha MFD also & a USB to PC that Works

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[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-29-2008).]

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#246556 - 10/29/08 08:14 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
ianmcnll Offline
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To each their own, Donny, we all know what we want to hear come out of speakers...I just don't like the Roland sound...just like Yamaha, or Korg...it will not suit everyone.

Ian
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#246557 - 10/29/08 08:22 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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Ian its more then sounds & styles alone to a pro navigation & editing tools you can use in live player is essential & to me Yamaha doesn't have them & judging by the latest models they won't address players needs at all like 76 keys etc .......they seem to ignore them & keep making very good Home style keyboards....but that doesn't make it right. Pros have special needs.

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#246558 - 10/29/08 08:26 AM Re: FYI........Roland arranger fact
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Can Ian and Fran agree on anything?
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