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#244579 - 10/11/08 09:06 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
Jerryghr Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1497
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
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Nice picture, though....I like the tie.

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The tie is actually his backup-"Giovanni's roll up keyboard"

Jerry

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#244580 - 10/11/08 09:10 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Jerryghr:
The tie is actually his backup-"Giovanni's roll up keyboard"

Jerry






Now you've done it, Jerry...Burkels will want one for sure.
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#244581 - 10/11/08 09:40 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
The one thing this all points out, IMO, is that, in the hands of a competent player,
ANY of these TOTL arrangers are capable of sounding amazing...

We spend all our time kvetching about each other's arranger, the sounds, the OS, the weight,
whatever, but when push comes to shove, the OS and sounds is about 10% of the equation,
and the guy behind the keyboard is still 90% of the wow! factor...

Put it this way... I'd rather listen to a great musician on an average arranger
than the other way around!

For most of us here, to be honest, a solid practice regimen will do more for your playing
than a new T3 EVER will... It's a LOT less expensive, too

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 10-11-2008).]
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#244582 - 10/11/08 09:57 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
For most of us here, to be honest, a solid practice regimen will do more for your playing
than a new T3 EVER will... It's a LOT less expensive, too



Not often we agree, my friend, but you make perfect sense here.

Time spent learning new chords and arrangements, and digging into your instrument's style creator and voice editing features can always bring new life to one's present arranger...and will save a lot of money for us working musicians, as well as the home player.

And, another thing is happening as well...it's getting harder to promote TOTL arrangers when the mid-range have come so far.

Now, most of the differences would be hardware and keybeds.

Ian
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#244583 - 10/11/08 10:17 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
I agree Diki & always have stated above ...

"Lets HEAR what ya got"

that says it all & silences all BS every time...

to many think the latest & greatest changes your playing ability....but we all know,
"Lets HEAR what ya got" will answer 99.9% of the questions.

Burkels ... regarding "Hideous"? have some class I'm sure you could express yourself a bit better btw.... where are your pictures for a comparison?

Larry it looks fine, I have a few ties like that also..



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-11-2008).]

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#244584 - 10/11/08 10:21 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
I must be doing something wrong if Ian's agreeing with me!

Actually, from most of the user demos I've heard here (not the top pros, but most others)
the TIMING, the ability to sit in the pocket and groove
is the thing I wish most would work on.

I can't tell you how many (most, in fact) cannot actually play along with the drums... they
rush, they drag, they often don't even sound as if they are even LISTENING
to the poor drummer!

Just one more reason a good punchy drum sound
is so important
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#244585 - 10/11/08 10:36 AM Re: Tyros3 Youtube video...
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Diki good post ....BUT Timing & keeping rhythm is more then just practice. I see people on the Dance floor every night just moving around with NO IDEA or conception of the tempo & their timing to dance to the music....its as if I blindfolded you & spun you around 10 x then said OK NOW DANCE!! they just aimlessly move around. I know people who have paid thousands in ballroom dance lessons & can't keep dancing to the tempo no matter what? The waltz being the worst example of this along with any other type of dance....that is the same scenario when I hear some people play and cannot keep time. Now practice can help some people if taught correctly BUT, then again some people & through NO Fault of their own JUST DONT HAVE RYTHYM INSIDE them!!......its not their fault its the way they were born.
But I commend anyone who really tries to improve their chops & enjoys themselves doing it. We're not all the same.

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