I know it's kind of tedious, George, but is it easy to take a look at the style data in microscope mode, and see whether that snare is simply a result of either a volume command to make it louder, or a greater velocity to the part, or is it REALLY a better, newer drum sample?

If it turns out to be the former two, there's a good chance that everyone with a T2 could get the same effect with just a tweak to the styles they already have...

In fact, this would be the perfect thing for Sørenson to make some software to do (you know Yamaha won't make this one! ). Take the 'tweaks' that have been made to the styles from the T2 that are in the T3, and reverse engineer them so that the T2 could gain that extra 'punch' as well...

If I had a T2, I'm not sure I'd be trading up until I knew for certain that many of the sonic improvements aren't simply some changes to the velocities, EQ's and effects that could be done in the T2 I already have.

"George... You can't easily re-voice a style or SMF within the T3? You HAVE to use external software "

Is Tyros3 different than Tyros2? I've revoiced hundreds of songs live on Tyros2. I always thought it was easy? -charley

Again,the Tyros3 allows you to edit and save exactly like the T1 and T2. What is new is Software that can convert Style Data, Registration Set Ups, Songs you've recorded on the T1 and T2 to play perfectly on the T3. Here is a link to the website where you can download this free software. http://www.yamahapkowner.com/



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George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com

Obtain the software on the Yamaha Download site for Ty3:
http://music.yamaha.com/products/d ownlo...021_20023_16277


Towards the bottom of page

"Tyros3 FileConverter ver.1.0.0

This application is for users of the Tyros2, and converts Registration Memory, Song, Style(including OTS), Multi Pad, Custom Voice, and Custom Voice Library created on the Tyros2 for use with the Tyros3."

John

[This message has been edited by jwyvern (edited 10-09-2008).]

**** OOPS the answer to my question appeared while I was typing this overly long message and correcting my bad spelling. I tried to delete it, but can't. Please ignore this post. *******

I'm also curious how to obtain the converion software, George. I know this sounds like I'm being critical of what was said, but that's not my intent. I'm just very puzzled and I think the clearest way to state my question is with 2 quotes.

In a post on 10-07-2008 you said:
As to the other question regarding revoicing standard midi files. I think I need some help here. I called Steve Deming today and asked him about the software I heard of on some of the websites which allowed the owner of a Tyros3 to optimize song files. I looked for this on the CD which came with the Tyros3 (or I should say I read the material that came with the CD and didn't see anything except for sound editing on a computer) and Steve didn't know what I was talking about. So, please explain to me what you have seen or read so I can understand this.

Then on 10-08-2008 you said:
You can certainly edit all the styles and tracks of a song as much as you like within the T3. Yamaha has come out with software that allows one to convert all their styles or registration memories or even songs they've recorded on the T1 or T3 to play perfectly on a T3 because from what I understand the software chooses appropriate sounds and effects that will enhance the sound when played on the T3.

It's obvious that you got the story on the software sometime between the 10/7 post and the 10/8 post, but I can't see it anywhere. Please explain about this software or let us know where we can find out about it.
Thanks!


[This message has been edited by Lee7 (edited 10-09-2008).]

... Another factor (probably over-looked) is the build quality of the T3 versus the others. It wasn't surprising when I looked under my units (4 that were sent in from Germany with 1 being returned) and found out that they were all made in .... JAPAN !!! Are those that are being sold in the US also made in Japan (George, please confirm)?

GREAT!!!!

That might explain why ...
* The screen has equal brightness from left to right, top to bottom (unlike most T2s were it was sometimes uneven) - which could be why the LCD contrast button has been eliminated?
* The keybed feels more sturdy (try wiggling keys from left to right - then do the same on the T2 or T1).
* Internal components - you can now (by switching 2 wires) change the voltage required between 110v (US) and 220v (World).
* USB sockets wired directly to CPU board versus previous extra circuit boards.
* Better ventilation on power circuit boards.
* etc ...

... Then again, all Tyros' were designed in Japan so it could just be modifications in many instances due to what was learned and researched in the field by the previous models (as many manufacturers do). However, beign designed in Japan and built with Japanese components using Japanese Labor is a HUGE difference as opposed to designed in Japan and built in ... e.g. China?

Either way, the build quiality of the T3, the SA1 and SA2 voices plus the extra control capability (Art1 & Art2) offered to control these from the panel (rather than only via the footswich) are great improvements. I however reserve my personal views on the "Arranger aspects" and features - especially drums and bass!!

So far the dozen plus that I have had my hands on, that came through the store have been made in Japan.

Looks like Wednesday I will finally have one for myself to take out on a gig.

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[This message has been edited by frankieve (edited 10-10-2008).]

My sources tell me that all Tyros3 are made in Japan.

Ian

AJ.....Fran & I will come to the lab next week ok? ....I'll call you l8tr

donny