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#243872 - 10/04/08 02:06 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
Caragabal Offline
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Diki Right on.

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#243873 - 10/04/08 07:50 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 1099
Loc: Myrtle beach SC
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Originally posted by Diki:
Deregulation has been the mantra since Reagan (and both sides have bought into it, don't get me wrong!)...

What everybody forgets is that each and every one of those regulations were passed as a response to a problem. They weren't grandfathered into the Constitution They came about for a reason. But leave them long enough in place that many forget WHY they were passed in the first place, and they start to look like an impediment to business, not the necessary check that they actually were.

Now remove those checks and bounds, slip loose the dogs of capitalism, and all of a sudden, we start to act SURPRISED when the same problems recur as a result of the same reason.

The United States of Amnesia...


Deregulation is a good thing....Its Freedom.

The problem with both is people seem to disregard the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with both.

Freedom without responsibility is running rampant in this country

As has deregulation......

We need atotal and compete cleanout of the sewer that is Washington even if we have tot thow the babys out with the bath water.

I would LOVE a congress and Senate of Sarah Palins (people who did not like what they saw as citizens and GOT INVOLVED at the local level then continued to get involved,

Her success proves people yearn for "Joe sixpacks" and "Soccer Moms" to reside over the constitution. Not lawyers. Since when is a law degree a prerequisite for public office?

The more people get involved at the local levels the mmore they will have a chance at the state levels and the national levels.

I believe Omaba is in it for himself and to make the history books. I don;t feel a genuine care for the people. I hear it. But I don;t feel it. I felt it from Bill Clinton, I fell it from Mc Cain, I felt it from Regan, I even felt it from Jimmy Carter. I did not feel it from Hillary whom without Bill would not be where she is.

We need term limits in the worst way in Washington. NO Harry Reids, and 20 year elected officials. Two terms and out.....without a big pension for life. DO it like we enlisted in the service. To serve for a few years than move on.
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#243874 - 10/05/08 09:27 AM Re: What about the bad economy?
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Kingfrog:
Deregulation is a good thing....Its Freedom.

The problem with both is people seem to disregard the RESPONSIBILITY that comes with both.

Freedom without responsibility is running rampant in this country

As has deregulation......

We need atotal and compete cleanout of the sewer that is Washington even if we have tot thow the babys out with the bath water.

I would LOVE a congress and Senate of Sarah Palins (people who did not like what they saw as citizens and GOT INVOLVED at the local level then continued to get involved,

Her success proves people yearn for "Joe sixpacks" and "Soccer Moms" to reside over the constitution. Not lawyers. Since when is a law degree a prerequisite for public office?

The more people get involved at the local levels the mmore they will have a chance at the state levels and the national levels.

I believe Omaba is in it for himself and to make the history books. I don;t feel a genuine care for the people. I hear it. But I don;t feel it. I felt it from Bill Clinton, I fell it from Mc Cain, I felt it from Regan, I even felt it from Jimmy Carter. I did not feel it from Hillary whom without Bill would not be where she is.

We need term limits in the worst way in Washington. NO Harry Reids, and 20 year elected officials. Two terms and out.....without a big pension for life. DO it like we enlisted in the service. To serve for a few years than move on.



I wasn't going to get involved in this, but this is the most sensible thing I've read.
Too bad it won't happen.
DonM
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#243875 - 10/05/08 10:19 AM Re: What about the bad economy?
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
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Originally posted by hammer:

I don't understand how the "talking heads" on any TV show or radio talk show can keep talking up how much trouble we are in and expect the public not to buy in to it. You know, keep telling the same story often enough and it becomes the truth. I wonder how many people are not spending money because they believe everything being said on the news shows.
Hammer


Hammer ... I agree ... I have long wondered what the effect would be if the media started saying that the price of houses was going to INCREASE over the next three months ...
Don't you think there would be a turn-around ??? ...
t.
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#243876 - 10/05/08 10:21 AM Re: What about the bad economy?
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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BTW ... I am happy to see that this thread has NOT turned into a mud-slinging, name calling, pissing contest ... nice going guys ...
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#243877 - 10/05/08 01:36 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
tarkington Offline
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Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 21
Loc: Fontana, CA, USA
Don’t want to be dark and preoccupied with this but when you put your mind’s eye on what’s happening in this nation’s economy this is time to be our best selves, be adults, and know what’s the sensible way to survive. Thanks for all your excellent points on this.

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#243878 - 10/05/08 02:50 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
BTW ... I am happy to see that this thread has NOT turned into a mud-slinging, name calling, pissing contest ... nice going guys ...
t.


...especially if you don't read between the lines .

Thank God AAPS (Aging Arranger Players Society) doesn't reflect the attitudes of the larger community of artists and musicians.

And oh yeah, it's very comforting to know that ol' 'Joe Six-pack' McCain, the son and grandson of four-star admirals, owner of 9 homes and 13 cars, and married to a 'hottie' worth over $100 Million, is "just like the rest of us". And with two wars, 940,000 jobs lost since the beginning of the year, the worst economy since the great depression, and eight years of the worst case of government incompetence in this country's history, who better than a good ol' Soccer Mom with a hard-won degree in journalism (after five false starts from five different second-rate schools) and a firm belief in Creationism, to solve our country's problems and restore our credibility around the world. I'll feel so much better knowing that we've got Putin firmly in our sights from her backyard should he raise his head in our airspace.

Oh well, I'm gonna go out and fire up the grill and throw on a couple of those yummy mooseburgers.

chas
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#243879 - 10/05/08 02:55 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Oh well, I'm gonna go out and fire up the grill and throw on a couple of those yummy mooseburgers.=

Don't knock em' till you've tried em'.

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#243880 - 10/06/08 02:53 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
Kingfrog Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 1099
Loc: Myrtle beach SC
Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:
...especially if you don't read between the lines .

Thank God AAPS (Aging Arranger Players Society) doesn't reflect the attitudes of the larger community of artists and musicians.

And oh yeah, it's very comforting to know that ol' 'Joe Six-pack' McCain, the son and grandson of four-star admirals, owner of 9 homes and 13 cars, and married to a 'hottie' worth over $100 Million, is "just like the rest of us". And with two wars, 940,000 jobs lost since the beginning of the year, the worst economy since the great depression, and eight years of the worst case of government incompetence in this country's history, who better than a good ol' Soccer Mom with a hard-won degree in journalism (after five false starts from five different second-rate schools) and a firm belief in Creationism, to solve our country's problems and restore our credibility around the world. I'll feel so much better knowing that we've got Putin firmly in our sights from her backyard should he raise his head in our airspace.

Oh well, I'm gonna go out and fire up the grill and throw on a couple of those yummy mooseburgers.

chas



I don't believe for a second Jon Mc Cain "forgot" about losing ALL freedom for many years in Saigon, I don't believe 100 homes could make a man like that forget what its like not to eat and live normally without pain.

I do believe Palin did what she did on her own from no where with no "help" from radical types and I don't think she became Governer and began her political carreer holding hands with some American who belonged to a terrorist group that bombed American institutions and to this day has no remourse. I don't think Palin or even Mc Cain took over $100,000 from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in "contributions" In fact Obama was the second behind Dodd in receiving contributions.

I know poor musicians and starving artists and people without always believe they will get freebees from the government if they elect the more socialist side. But while they are taking those overseas are planning to to kill them.......and in fact will.

There is no doubt in my mind we will be attacked again if Obama gets elected. Our enemies have claimed they want Obama in office.......Go figure. They got Clinton and spent the next 8 years planniing the largest attack on this country since Pearl Harbor while Clinton cared for the "poor" and "felt their pain" enjoying his interns sexual favors. They tested him with the first WT bombing,,,,he did nothing, They rested him with the killing of our Marines in another bombing...he did nothing...they tested him with the bombimg of the USS Cole....again he did nothing.

The Internet stocks caused a huge stock market bubble and the governemnt benefited with more capital gain income. No on complained about all the surplus money which was wiped out after 9-11....never to be recouped.
We need a military leader now more than someone who will make sure people who cannot afford homes can buy them........

I really believe the American people understand this and will see the light....or if I lived in any major city I would move,,,
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#243881 - 10/06/08 03:33 PM Re: What about the bad economy?
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Ummm, I wonder where the phrase "people get the government they deserve" came from?

chas
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