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#243613 - 10/01/08 10:09 AM Tyros 3 review so far
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Open it up.

the Screen is amazing, beautiful, sharp, a pleasure to look at, leaps above the T2 screen

the keybed is also beautiful, it feels much better than the T2 that I remember

so far demo style of sax and bass, the bass was full and deep, something that has been missing from Yamaha in the past.

sax was great.

gotta go play more
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#243614 - 10/01/08 10:15 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Drums seem to have more bottom end and presence, I guess they were listening
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#243615 - 10/01/08 10:39 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Curious about something Frank. When you say more bottom.., is it new samples or does it sound as if they made effects setting changes to make the kits pop more?
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#243616 - 10/01/08 10:50 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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It's most likely the fx processor have been completely re-done and dedicated to individual sounds instead of grouped fxs
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#243617 - 10/01/08 10:52 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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#243618 - 10/01/08 10:55 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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WOW, there is an arranger heaven!!

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#243619 - 10/01/08 10:56 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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How is the vocal processor, is that really the same as before?

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#243620 - 10/01/08 11:04 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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How do those keys feel? I loved the keys on the Tyros 2. I was told these new keys on the Tyros 3 are supposed to be the same keybed used for the Motif XS6.... I found that odd too because when the XS6 was released write-ups stated the XS6's bed was supposed to resemble the Tyros 2
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#243621 - 10/01/08 11:04 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Originally posted by Christian_1:
How is the vocal processor, is that really the same as before?


So far there is no Documents proof of any upgrade to the VH.

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#243622 - 10/01/08 11:13 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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The keybed feels much better to me, but it could be that I have played the S900 way too much,.

The VH seems the same but for some reason a little smoother, probably because of the better fx proc.

The have an assign slider which by default is for the keyboard volume on the right, pretty cool.

Seems to me the style are pretty much the same with some new ones but the styles I thought that were poor, are still poor.

SA2 voices are very nice, and they are doing the the mono/poly mix with slides, bends, and other fx on the way play or slurred, very cool.

They have a dedicated eq for the yamaha speaker system.

Did I mention how nice that screen looks!!!

ok I gotta go ship some keyboards, I'll be checking the forum, if anyone has any particular questions, just fire away
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#243623 - 10/01/08 11:27 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Hi Frankie,

Thanks for posting those cool pics.

Question: Outdoors, the T2's LCD screen acts more like a mirror , so impractical for lyric display on the outdoor jobs, so could you possibly take the T3 outside and report back the screen's brightness, visability (and reflectance) in in bright difused sunlight and mixed/sun shade? Thanks in advance. - Scott
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#243624 - 10/01/08 11:27 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Frankie,
Thanks for the update, What amp/sytem are you hooked up to? Keep on shipping!

Jay R

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#243625 - 10/01/08 11:56 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Hi Frankie,

Thanks for posting those cool pics.

Question: Outdoors, the T2's LCD screen acts more like a mirror , so impractical for lyric display on the outdoor jobs, so could you possibly take the T3 outside and report back the screen's brightness, visability (and reflectance) in in bright difused sunlight and mixed/sun shade? Thanks in advance. - Scott


Sorry Scott, it's still just a beautiful mirror outside, very reflective, you can still make out what it says but, there is no contrast controll
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#243626 - 10/01/08 12:35 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Quote:
Originally posted by frankieve:
Sorry Scott, it's still just a beautiful mirror outside, very reflective, you can still make out what it says but, there is no contrast controll



I really find that amazing (in a disappointing way), since I had one on my technics kn1000 about 16 years ago ... ...
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#243627 - 10/01/08 01:32 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Quote:
Originally posted by frankieve:
Sorry Scott, it's still just a beautiful mirror outside, very reflective


Frank: many thanks for taking the time to perform that test as this and any possible MusicFinder feature improved enhancements were the biggest draw to getting me to open up my wallet. Score now: Strike TWO!

Though I'm certainly impressed w/ T3's new individual (SA2) voice real time control improvements with ability to cut off the head, body, and/or tail of a sample, I'm yet to be convinced that it's wise financially (for me) to upgrade at this point. That said, having had 3 years now to custom tweak my T2 (100's of custom reg setups + a huge library of fresh new sampled TVN WAV instrument voices linked to OTS) , I've got this baby sounding just the way I want now. - Scott
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#243628 - 10/01/08 02:30 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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While I stare at mine here at the store in the box.....(9PM cannot come to soon)But had a great meeting with the Korg Rep who just happened to show up today. What timing. LOL
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#243629 - 10/01/08 03:56 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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sorry double post

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#243630 - 10/01/08 03:57 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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sorry double post
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#243631 - 10/01/08 06:07 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Kingfrog...so what did the Korg rep have to say?? Any thing helpfull?

Lee
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#243632 - 10/01/08 07:49 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Having Owned a Tyros 2 and now the XS6, i can tell u that the keyboard is identicle. (FSX Keybaord).

i am pretty sure this has not changed in the T3. (not a bad thing, the current keyboard is great!)
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#243633 - 10/01/08 11:34 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Originally posted by leeboy:
Kingfrog...so what did the Korg rep have to say?? Any thing helpfull?

Lee


Not really. He was all about the M3. I told him about my experience with the PA2x and thought it was a great gigging keyboard. He wants us to carry the workstations. We won't carry any because people will demo them here then but them on the net to save the tax. But we do carry the VOX and MArshall line form him.

But we only really carry the Yamaha Home keyboard line. We have one Tyros 3 and I can tell you it will sit for a long time. I think the only reason my boss oredered it is because I bought one on the employee program for 10% less than wholesale and he figures I will be the only one in the store able to demo it.

This is a Clavinova market. I'll sell $5,000 CVP 405s while the Tyros sits.

Even though Myrtle Beach has a lot of work for singles and duos. NO one uses Arrangers on the job. Even My wife who has made her living as a professional musician will record the arranger parts on a CD and fill in the rest on the gig. She would rather haul the 88 keys and her Guitar around and play with tracks.


Except for guitars, baby grands, and Home Keyboards this is a low end market. No $3000 keyboards sell quickly. PSR900s do well especially with Latinos for some reason.
All working musicians around here still see arrangers keyboards as "less than professional" sophisticated karaoke machines. Like me they buy them for studio use and drag a workstation to the gigs.
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#243634 - 10/02/08 02:35 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Hi Frank,Many thanks for the review.I'm buying this keyboard very soon and I have some questions,please clarify.
1.How this Tyros3 sounds on it's own speakers when compared to Tyros2?
2.How the strings,choir,organ flutes sound?
3.How the styles sound when compared to Tyros2 and s900?
Waiting for your reply.

Sunny

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#243635 - 10/02/08 04:41 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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What's that dog doing in the last picture???


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#243636 - 10/02/08 05:16 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Originally posted by Uncle Dave:

What's that dog doing in the last picture???




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#243637 - 10/02/08 05:26 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Quote:
Originally posted by sunny152:
Hi Frank,Many thanks for the review.I'm buying this keyboard very soon and I have some questions,please clarify.
1.How this Tyros3 sounds on it's own speakers when compared to Tyros2?
2.How the strings,choir,organ flutes sound?
3.How the styles sound when compared to Tyros2 and s900?
Waiting for your reply.

Sunny


Sunny,

I have never used the Tyros speakers on the T2 so I really can't comment on that. But it looks like they have re-worked the compressor and fx so the keyboard as a whole has a better fuller sound.

Strings sounds are great, very lush, organs are good but I still think they are too" 60's European" I'm not sure if that helps, I have never truelly been a big organ fan of Yamaha. But they are better sounding than before.

compared to the T2 and S900. the styles are pretty much the same except for 50 new ones that are scattered and not visibly listed as "new"
the T2/S900 compared to the T3, the sounds and styles seem to have a little more umph, a combination of a little more bass, more treble, better compression, better freq response, I played 2 weeks ago using a s900 and had to mess alot with the eq to get it to sound like my PA2xpro, but the T3 seems to be pretty close out of the box.

It's just hard to try to explain sound in words

I hope this helps?

Frank

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#243638 - 10/02/08 05:59 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Frank,
Thanks for giving more info about Tyros3.I also had s900 but i'm not satisfied with the strings,choir and organ voices,so i sold it last week and decided to purchase Tyros3.Is there any much difference between s900 and Tyros 3?It is mentioned that Tyros3 organ samples are 10 times more than Tyros 2.Is there any much improvement in organ section?

Sunny



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#243639 - 10/02/08 06:12 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Originally posted by Uncle Dave:

What's that dog doing in the last picture???




Glad you said it and not me ..

Dog Eat Dog World ...
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#243640 - 10/02/08 06:13 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Sunny,

Yamaha told me they have updated the organ section and the waveform memory has increased.

Sunny drop me a email to discuss the T3 purchase if you like

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#243641 - 10/02/08 06:26 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Frank,
E-mail sent.

Sunny

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#243642 - 10/02/08 07:02 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Frank,
Where this Tyros3 is assembled?

Sunny

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#243643 - 10/02/08 07:03 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Made in Japan,

Well atleast that's what the box says
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#243644 - 10/02/08 08:19 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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Quote:
Originally posted by sunny152:
Frank,
Thanks for giving more info about Tyros3.I also had s900 but i'm not satisfied with the strings,choir and organ voices,so i sold it last week and decided to purchase Tyros3.Is there any much difference between s900 and Tyros 3?It is mentioned that Tyros3 organ samples are 10 times more than Tyros 2.Is there any much improvement in organ section?

Sunny

[This message has been edited by sunny152 (edited 10-02-2008).]


I think Frank will agree the T3 has immensely widened the gap between the S900 and the Tyros family.

I felt the s900 was nearly 2/3s of the T2 which made it difficult to justify the cost of the T2. The S900 IMO is 1/8 the T3 in every area, The money gap has been filled quite nicely. You really have to hear one live.

I set the store's up with the Speakers. I never liked them on the T2 and I feel no different with the T3. But maybe some people will use them as a monitoring system on a gig. For that purpose they are fine.

There are much better Small speaker set ups (albeit not as slick to mount etc) as the Yamaha set up. Klipsch and Bose comes to mind.
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#243645 - 10/03/08 05:04 PM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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I agree , the Tyros 3 is way ahead of the T-2.

The organ sounds are vastly improved , and that is what I use the most.

And the strings are as good as they have always been , and the brass is still the best on a Yamaha !! IMO

Later ,

Gary 

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#243646 - 10/05/08 08:51 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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OMG !!
I'm STILL laughing ...........
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#243647 - 10/12/08 04:59 AM Re: Tyros 3 review so far
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For a full review of the Tyros 3, check out this url:
http://www.yamahapkowner.com/?page_id=585

Yamaha have released both the Tyros3 and Tyros2 file conversion software for Windows. This application converts files of the Registration Memory, Song, Style, OTS (One Touch Setting), Multi Pad, Custom Voice, and Custom Voice Library created on the Tyros2 for use with the Tyros3.

Yamaha have also released the Tyros2 edition of the software. Owners of the original Tyros(1), PSR-9000 or 9000Pro keyboards first need to convert files to Tyros2 compatibility before running the Tyros3 file conversion software. (You can’t use the Tyros3 conversion program to convert files straight from Tyros(1) to Tyros3!).

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