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#242633 - 09/15/08 06:53 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
Diki Offline
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Gary...

Your link on the signature line (and your profile) is not currently working. Everything OK?

Do you have a new link?

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#242634 - 09/15/08 06:57 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
ianmcnll Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
So where do we find these Yamaha #1 selling stats...


Probably the same place Lee got his Korg stats...

I do know that Yamaha arrangers rule in my region.

My source?

The dealers.

Ian

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#242635 - 09/15/08 07:16 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
Diki Offline
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And dealers ALWAYS tell the truth...! And are founts of knowledge and unbiased opinion

Yamaha sell a LOT of arrangers, because they have a LOT of low end models. IMO, they only make two quality arrangers. The S900 and the T2/3.

Subtract all the sales of those junk ones, and possibly the field gets a little leveler, IMO (but not even!).

Anyway, as has been said, popularity is no indicator of quality. Look at the music charts, if you want proof there! Anyone want to try and persuade me that the Pussycat Dolls or Fergie are the best singers out there?

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#242636 - 09/15/08 07:17 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
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Ian, your source is the boonedocks..area.

Gary that is just from the Organization, Dave, Donny and I belong....and I am from Pa..

BTW: I remember 2 more Roland arranger players and another Korg player in our group..

Also Jerry T..he has a Ketron..and a Korg

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#242637 - 09/15/08 07:30 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
ianmcnll Offline
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Ian, your source is the boonedocks..area.



Fran, stop trying to act smart...it doesn't look good on you.

Still, facts are facts, and the dealers say Yamaha rules here in the boondocks.

Down in the boondocks...down in the boondocks...mmmm...isn't that a song?

Billy Joe Royal, I believe....written by Joe South...a great tune, and a great place to live.

Keep practising, Sunshine, you're doing great.

Ian
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#242638 - 09/15/08 07:35 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
Fran Carango Offline
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Fran, stop trying to act smart...it doesn't look good on you.

Still, facts are facts, and the dealers say Yamaha rules here in the boondocks.

Down in the boondocks...down in the boondocks...mmmm...isn't that a song?

Billy Joe Royal, I believe....written by Joe South...a great tune, and a great place to live.

Keep practising, Sunshine, you're doing great.

Speaking of sunshine..I guess you are all healed up..

Ian

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#242639 - 09/15/08 07:38 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
ianmcnll Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
And dealers ALWAYS tell the truth...!


Of course they do Diki...what have they to gain by making false statements?

I trust my dealers as much as I can trust you.

And, I do agree...a lot of Yamaha's sales are low-end arrangers, but remember, yesterday's low-end arranger player, is tomorrow's Tyros/S900 buyer.

Not everyone starts out on the high-end stuff.

Ian
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#242640 - 09/15/08 07:38 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
Fran Carango Offline
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Stop bugging me..I am trying to watch the game!!!!!!!!!!!!..
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#242641 - 09/15/08 07:45 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10592
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Stop bugging me..I am trying to watch the game!!!!!!!!!!!!..


You have a TV?

Betcha it's got a remote and everything.

I just hope the nurses don't catch you.
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#242642 - 09/15/08 07:52 PM Re: What is Yamaha thinking?
Diki Offline
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 12861
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Of course they do Diki...what have they to gain by making false statements?

I trust my dealers as much as I can trust you.

And, I do agree...a lot of Yamaha's sales are low-end arrangers, but remember, yesterday's low-end arranger player, is tomorrow's Tyros/S900 buyer.

Not everyone starts out on the high-end stuff.

Ian



Sorry, but yesterday's low end player (unless a retiree) is tomorrow's WS player.

Until they start to make them so they are not an embarrassment for younger players to drag out in front of their friends, they are not the upward path we wish they would be.

And, I guess the problem with dealers is they are local. No-one wants to accept the dealer's local figures extrapolated to worldwide figures, because each area is quite unique. I have worked retail before, and no-one EVER gave us a brand by brand national or worldwide sales figure, broken down by model... Best I ever saw were total sales, as pumped up to the stockholders meeting, not a per model breakdown. And that was just a couple of brands.

And lying is the mantra of the industry.

The developers lie to the marketing division (about how long development will take). The marketing division lies to the dealers (about how soon the product will be available), and the dealers lie to their customers (about how much better of a player they will be if they buy BrandX's new arranger)... And then their customers come here and lie (about how fantastic only THEIR arranger is)

It's how capitalism survives! Were the truth to ever get out, the system would collapse

You can trust me about this I wouldn't lie to YOU

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