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#241716 - 09/03/08 03:48 PM What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
Dnj Offline
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Who knows..... do you?

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#241717 - 09/03/08 04:18 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
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Hi Donny

Having been in music retail for 30 years including owning a full line music store, they are from my experience saying there is a small amount of people who buy these products that would use 76 keys and that 61 keys fits the needs of the market they are going after. Space and weight may be considered, but not a real biggie I wouldn't think.

And, very possibly, they are concerned that if there is a 76 note Tyros that maybe they will loose sales of the very expensive Clavinova CVP series line.

I don't have a crystal ball or a direct line to Yamaha,but really what else could it be.

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#241718 - 09/03/08 04:30 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
I don't have a crystal ball or a direct line to Yamaha,but really what else could it be.


Scott I have no idea either BUT,.....I would love to be a fly on the wall in that original T3 design meeting

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#241719 - 09/03/08 04:44 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
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I don't think it's really "there's no need for one". Korg and Roland's 76's have done well. The need is there, but Yamaha (for reasons unknown) stopped after the 9000 Pro.

IMO.., Yamaha does any and everything they can to keep a very fine line between some of their keyboards. It would appear they don't want some of their models being any type of competition for another one of their models.., which is IMO why they so severely strip down some of the lower versions of particular keyboards.

I think a 76 Tyros would sell very well.., hell the case is already long enough for it. I think Yamaha is just comfortable where they are with the Tyros. They feel the fan base they currently have is doing fine I guess.

I will say that I honestly think it really boils down to a weight issue. Korg and Roland users are already used to the 76'ers and I've noticed that the issue of weight isn't brought up with them as much as it is with Yamaha arrangers. Perhaps.., Yamaha's not wanting to lose a large percentage of their customer base who are very vocal about keeping the weight down. I think that if the Tyros started as a 76'er and continued today as a 76'er.., well the fan base would already be used to the weight and would have accepted that by now.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 09-03-2008).]
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#241720 - 09/03/08 04:59 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
chony Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Who knows..... do you?


I think this is the 76th thread on this topic in the last 6 months.

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#241721 - 09/03/08 05:01 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
DanO1 Offline
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I think it is based more on what sells in Europe vs. what the USA market dictates.
My understanding is that 61 keys is widely acceptable in Europe. Its that cut & dry .
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#241722 - 09/03/08 05:03 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
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#241723 - 09/03/08 05:36 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
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I imagine Yamaha makes a huge profit margin on a 61 key board seeing the sheer numbers of them they sell. They probably do a huge production run and crank them out by the thousands which keeps their costs down. Why would they want to make a 76 note model that would just need a limited production run? How much more would that 76 nite board cost? How much more would you be willing to pay? I think they just stick with the tried and true! -charley

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#241724 - 09/03/08 06:22 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
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It's very simple....

Europeans have MORE fingers than Americans
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#241725 - 09/03/08 06:35 PM Re: What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?
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What is Yamaha saying to us with a 61key T3 vs a 76 key one?

That they do not believe in the product.

If Yamaha is stating the sounds and styles of the T3 a superior to any other, then making the T3 with 76 keys would only help them to increase their sales.
As we all know, the persons who would or is going to buy the 61 key T3, would buy a 76 key T3 if that was their only option.


It is now common knowledge that a 76 key T3 can be built having the same weight as the 61 T3 (76 keys does not = heavy)..

I guess Yamaha likes to throw money away.
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