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#233372 - 04/29/08 06:14 PM
Re: Just curious---
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Main Entry: ca·coph·o·ny Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural ca·coph·o·nies Date: circa 1656 : harsh or discordant sound : dissonance 2; specifically : harshness in the sound of words or phrases Just because the sound is coming from an arranger doesn't mean there is a "cacophony" of sound ... t.
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#233389 - 04/30/08 01:49 PM
Re: Just curious---
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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Just because the sound is coming from an arranger doesn't mean there is a "cacophony" of sound [/B] And just because it's an arranger doesn't mean there is NOT! You leave ALL those parts ON during a busy style, playing busy changes, and it can be a mess! Trevor... Rolf Harris? Wow, I haven't heard that name in a while! I did back up for him one time at a Holiday Camp gig. Nice guy... I though he was a bit kinky with that song about marsupial bondage, though Donny, were you saying that you DON'T use a sustain pedal for anything OTHER than cocktail piano? How can you play any kind of Rhodes or Wurli or Ac. Piano without one? And lastly, I encourage those that have the ability to use SOSTENUTO, rather than sustain from a pedal, to take a good look at it... It basically ONLY holds what you are playing WHEN YOU PRESS THE PEDAL, but not anything else. So for brass, strings organ and many non-piano sounds, it makes a FAR better choice, allowing you to 'hold' a few notes, and still play around them without 'smear' or unnatural build-up. High 'floaters', low 'pedal tones', middle 'half-chords' that you dance around, there are some amazing things you can do with sostenuto... (don't forget, you can use sustain at the same time as sostenuto, for a combination of BOTH types). Give it a try, sometime...
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#233391 - 04/30/08 03:23 PM
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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Absolutely. Sustain is a terrible thing to abuse, and I HAVE struggled through the odd gig when my sustain conked out on me, and survived, but I noticed the difference on piano and Rhodes parts was excruciating, despite my best efforts at legato. That, and the ability to hold something while you do a quick move to the screen or buttons (I don't run EVERYTHING with my feet ), makes the sustain an essential part of my performing. Just about ANYTHING can be abused, as well as used well... I don't allow myself to worry if someone ELSE overuses it, though. All that matters is that I don't..! I guess my main thing is that I don't WANT to change my technique if I don't HAVE to. I know there are workarounds for most things, but after spending most of my life learning how to play pretty much like anything you hear on the radio, I don't want to have to change that to accommodate a MACHINE. I feel the machine should accommodate ME!
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