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#231919 - 04/10/08 06:19 PM Speakers For Tyros
white piano Offline
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i have Tyros 1 and am thinking of set of powered speakers for it .

Some have talked about Logitech Z 2200 in this forum as a set used for Nursing Homes etc .

In your opinion is Logitech Z 2200 or Z 5500 better than the speakers Yamaha is selling for Tyros .

Also, I was going to buy a Logitech Z series to try it out but it says I need a PC card

Could some one tell me how do you all connect your keyboard to a Logitech Z 2200

Thanks in advance

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#231920 - 04/10/08 07:18 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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The Logitech speakers are much more powerful than the Tyros speaker system. You can get a set of Z-2300 $150.00 you can't beat it. I have 3 sets of Logitechs. To hook them to the Tyros I use an adptor "1/8 sterio to "1/4 sterio & plug it into the headphone jack on the Tyros, works great. You can also use a spliter, plug into main outs on the back of the Tyros. The Logitech comes with a "1/8 sterio plug so you have to use an adptor which ever way you go. I hope this helps.

Jim
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#231921 - 04/10/08 07:21 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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The Z-2200 system no longer exists and was replaced by the Z-2300 system. However, for another $100 you can purchase the Z-5500 system, which is an incredible 5.1 surround sound system that will accommodate audiences to 125 people with no problems.

It's easy to hook up to your keyboard and there are several posts pertaining to this, which can be found by doing a search. If you have problems I'll be more than happy to guide you through the process.

Good Luck,

Gary

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#231922 - 04/10/08 07:51 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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Although I haven't tested this on the Tyros's, in GENERAL, the line-outs of most audio equipment is a hair cleaner and quieter than the headphone outs, as it doesn't have to pass through an additional amplifier (to get it up to phones power levels), and built-in headphone amps generally don't stack up to dedicated pre-amps.. Fewer gain stages usually equates to quieter, cleaner sound.

Just a thought...
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#231923 - 04/10/08 10:30 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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I just sold my Z5500 system because I wasn't happy with the lack of Midrange & overpowering booming bass.. I am now looking for & auditioning some decent quality powered speakers.

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#231924 - 04/11/08 12:05 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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Diki's right. Generally, coming out of a pre-amped source, like an earphone jack, into an amplifier is inferior to coming out of a line out. I ALWAYS get devices with a line out,if available, if there is a chance I'll use it/them with a PA.

Russ

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#231925 - 04/18/08 05:13 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
white piano Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Although I haven't tested this on the Tyros's, in GENERAL, the line-outs of most audio equipment is a hair cleaner and quieter than the headphone outs, as it doesn't have to pass through an additional amplifier (to get it up to phones power levels), and built-in headphone amps generally don't stack up to dedicated pre-amps.. Fewer gain stages usually equates to quieter, cleaner sound.

Just a thought...


I like to thanks every one for helping me .
I bought a Z 2300 and tested on my Tyros and the sound was just not good . It was like sound was coming from a well with little clarity. This may be due to Tyros useing Mega voices . I use headset Sennheiser HD 280 PRO and the sound is just fantastic and the instruments sound like the real thing playing it live

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#231926 - 04/18/08 05:39 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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White,

Something must be wrong. I have used my Z2100s with my Tyros 1, Sd-1 and now G70. The sound is always crisp and clear. Granted there is a little lacking in the mid-range but some keyboard EQ can compensate for most of that.

Tom
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#231927 - 04/18/08 07:29 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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I agree with Tom--something wrong with the Logitech system, or maybe the way you set it up.

Cheers,

Gary

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#231928 - 04/19/08 02:02 AM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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Sounds like a phase problem...

Double check that ALL the speakers are connected EXACTLY how they tell you to.
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#231929 - 04/19/08 07:50 AM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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A quick way to check speakers are wired correctly in phase.
Face speaker grills together 2 to 3 inch apart and then swap over L&R of just one speaker. The option giving the most bass is the correct one.

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#231930 - 04/19/08 07:58 AM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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These computer speakers are actually NOT made for playing instruments through. I sold my Z5500 because of the lack of mid-range & all the thin wires, remote control etc etc just too annoying to set up. Im in the process of trying out two Roland KC 150 Kb amps with the stereo link. They really sound clear and more then enough power using one or two. Quality build also.
Or I will also try two powered Mackie, FBT, Yorkville speakers as I try to come up with the perfect combination of gear to perform with for me hopefully in a few months..

[This message has been edited by John DiLeo (edited 04-19-2008).]

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#231931 - 04/19/08 09:00 AM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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I agree with John DiLeo. The Tyros' own speaker system w/sub certainly lacks oomph! and other speakers in the same category i.e. "small satellites w/sub" just can't muster the sound that a keyboard such as the Tyros deserves to be heard with. These little Logitech, etcetera, type of speakers are simply not powerful enough [read: NOT PRO quality grade] and you really need something on a PRO quality level to really make that $3,000 instrument shine as it was meant to. I have a Tyros 1 also and if I'm gonna spend 3 G notes on a keyboard I'm not going to skimp on speakers if I don't have to. OTOH, if the Tyros broke your bank then cheesy speakers may be your only recourse, but if it were me I would save up and eventually get some pro level speakers for your Tyros and in the mean time listen to it through the Sennheiser HD 280 'PRO' headphones.

Best,
Mike
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#231932 - 04/19/08 01:44 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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www.bose.com

My choice for everything!

Good Luck,

Gary

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#231933 - 04/19/08 01:59 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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Except stereo!
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#231934 - 04/19/08 02:18 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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for in house as in (Home Player DIKI ), I use the setup I bought from Donnie P and they are fine for this recording studio.
they are a Left and Right Bose 161 speakers and used in combination with the Yamaha Sub woofer that is for this Tyros 2. I like it fine for in here.
When it goes out to work it uses either a pair of Peavey KB 100's or the Motion Sound key - Pro KP-200 S.
I am ok with all three setups except for the weight of the Peavey's. they are pretty heavy but my wife can still pack one in each hand from the car to the clubhouse
I would help her but Peavy only put one handle on each one
Best to all,
Bebop
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#231935 - 04/19/08 02:27 PM Re: Speakers For Tyros
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Bebop glad to hear your still enjoying the Bose 161's. Gotta run, big gig tonight

stay well

Dp

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