I woke up this moring and realized I have 2 left arms.... I'm finally a jazz player after all

"90% of all jazz is half improvisation. The other half is the part people play while others are playing something they never played with anyone who played that part. So if you play the wrong part, its right. If you play the right part, it might be right if you play it wrong enough. But if you play it too right, it's wrong"- Yogi Berra

I'm not sure if that statement is right or wrong ? Something seems left out, which may make it right ... If it is right, than I think there is nothing left to say ...

Hopefully, one day you'll "fiquire" out how to spell and play at the same time.

After reading that I'm glad I don't play Jazz....but, I do really enjoy the playing techniques of some great players which always inspires me..

Funny, guys, but closer to reality than I sometimes like.We must have worked together in a past life.

R.

"Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's what's so simple about it"-Yogi Berra.

It's all about Right brain/Left brain. And then there is the arranger player, who apparently has a Middle brain (preferring to be neither creative NOR learn to play ).

chas

Oooooooh...nasty!

Love it!

Ian

You Got Me ...smelling was never my strong point...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by cgiles:
It's all about Right brain/Left brain. And then there is the arranger player, who apparently has a Middle brain (preferring to be neither creative NOR learn to play ).

chas

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Just because you own an arranger keyboard, doesn't mean you can't play.
Now back to my middle brain thoughts....

OUCH. Chas. Actually, right/left brain theory is at the heart of my approach to teaching Interpersonal Communications. The focus is to get every person involved to realize how they're oriented and make them realize that, depending on where they're coming from, they're much better prepared for success in some areas than others.

People who think they don't have the brain power to succeed in one area often find they have the brain power, it's just configured like a Mac, not a PC.

The intent is to prevent people from striving and failing at things they just don't have the aptitude for.

Really satisfying work. Students even developed/refined a computer test. After the participant answers a battery of querstions, the brain is drawn out showing the percentage of activity on each side. It's bogus sience, but somewhat appropriate and fun. It gets the point across.

Russ

Russ ... you lost me ... ...

I just realized that Chas has an arranger & Russ has an arranger and they both play jazz..
Please disregard my defending of the arranger keyboard owner...

Dan, no need to defend arranger users AT ALL.

R.

Take the test.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html

chas

Hadn't seen that one, Chas.

Thanks,

"Right brained" Russ

Cool test Chas.

Right Brained Ian

Nice....;o)

Right brained Manuel.

50 - 50

It turns anti-clockwise, unless I look off to the side and use peripheral vision and then I can make it turn it the other way. How does that happen?
Does this mean I have to start playing Jazz?

You have to have 2 left arms to play jazz...


BTW... why am I spending so much time
ON-LINE ? I've been working in a Piano Store the last 6 months... A lot of down time.

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AAAGGHHH ! It started out counterclockwise and changed after a minute !
I'm doomed.

Same for me Dave. Must have something to do with superior intelligence.
DonM

That's so funny. I don't know any "official" jazz songs - but I have this name as being an amazing jazz player. All I do is make things up. I never do the same thing twice, because I can't remember what I did five minutes after I did it.

I just wish she'd come out of the shadows. How does she keep from getting dizzy? Is that why she switches from clockwise to "anti-" clockwise?

I'm left handed; does that count for anything?

Ah! Chony.... You must be my long lost twin!!!

Yeah ... what a lot of BS - I tried it once more, and she CHANGES direction. I can't belive I fell for that crap. Sheesh.

UD, are you sure? How do you account for the fact that my wife and I see it differently at the same time. Try it with another person.

chas

I tried it too, it changes direction on its own. And you don't have to stare or concentrate, I Left it open and went to another page and when I came back it was going in the opposite direction. I was going to time it to see if it does it on a schedule but then thought to myself I must be crazy I have better things to do. maybe not..
about 35 seconds the first time (mississippi 1 etc.) about 30 the second

In 1998, a study suggested that approximately 7 to 10 percent of the adult population was left-handed.

Some studies argue a correlation between left-handedness and creativity/intelligence.

Left-handedness, in comparison to the general population, also appears to occur more frequently in both identical and fraternal twins, and several groups of individuals with neurological disorders (such as people with epilepsy, Down's Syndrome, autism, mental retardation and dyslexia).

From Wikipedia.

Ian

Oh, Great! I'm left-handed. And right brain dominant. I'm a real mess!


"Lefty" Lay

[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 04-03-2008).]

Think about this Right/left brained thing. I only see clockwise motion, and I am the "poster-person" for the right-brained set...spacy, optimistic, thinks overview instead of details, etc. Those like Don and Dave are safely in the middle, with good attention to detail, but still in the sensible creative side. They are in the most versatile, well-adjusted group, with successes in fields requiring either linear or abstract thinking ability. Engineer types only see counter-clockwise activity and think in a linear fashion. Left brainers just can't think abstractly and usually don't get along with or understand abstract philosophers. musicians, advertising creative directors, etc. Extreme right brainers are the most creative and crazy of the lot (think of the most creative scientists, musicians, writers, etc.).

Not sure of the origin of the graphic, but right/left brain theory is a valid, interesting scientific field, used in organizational management to define the problems between, say, a sales force or marketing department and the plant manager, accounting or engineering department.

Knowing that right brainers process information like and prefer Macs, whereas left-brainers think like PC's helps manage different types of people.

Some differences between folks here can even be explained by differences in how we process an apply information.

Chas, you always surprise me in how similar we think. Your awareness and understanding of "right/left" brain issues (an area of concentration in my academic career) is a good example.


"righty" Russ

This thread is spinning out of control ..

Take Wikipedia with a grain 'ary' of salt.

Never has starting an argument been easier than to click the word "edit" on a Web site and rewrite history, science or a current event.

The fact remains that 'anyone' may anonymously add to, subtract or alter existing pieces of information within seconds on Wikipedia. Professors are well aware of the site's nameless authors and as such, most will not accept Wikipedia as a valid source. What does that mean for students, besides the notion they may have to actually do some research?

Personally, I would not rely on Wikipedia as a trusted reliable source for information, regardless of topic. In other words, it is a hit or miss proposition in my opinion and should be taken with a grain of salt. I admire your fortitude though Ian.

Best,
Mike

Here is a compiled list of famous left-handed musicians, singers, and composers..


Name Nationality Description DOB

Albarn, Damon UK Singer with Blur 23-Mar-1968
Allman, Greg Musician
Ark, Brad Vander Musician
Armstrong, Tim Singer/Guitarist
Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel German Composer 08-Mar-1714
Bentyne, Cheryl USA (WA) Singer with Manhatten Transfer 17-Jan-1954
Bowie, David UK Singer 8-Jan-1947
Britten, Benjamin UK Composer 22-Nov-1913
Byrne, David Scottish Talking Heads 14-May-1952
Campbell, Ali UK Singer with UB 40 15-Feb-1959
Campbell, Glen USA Singer 22-Apr-1936
Campbell, Robin UK Singer with UB 40 25-Dec-1954
Carr, Vikki USA Singer 19-Jul-1941
Caruso, Enrico Italian Tenor 27-Feb-1873
Casals, Pablo Spain Cellist 29-Dec-1876
Castle, Jeremy USA Country music singer, songwriter, Oklahoma 2-Aug-1974
Cobain, Kurt (Decd.) USA- LA Lead singer of Nirvana 20-Feb-1967
Cockburn, Bruce Canadian Signer Song Writer 27-May-1945
Cokes, Ray UK (IOW) Video Jocky 24-Feb-1948
Cole, Natalie USA- LA Singer 6-Feb-1950
Collins, Phil UK Musician/Actor 30-Jan-1951
Collins, Dorothy Canadian Singer 18-Nov-1926
Copeland, Stewart USA Composer 16-Jul-1952
Cyrus, Billy Ray USA (KY) Musician - sang "Achy breaky heart" 25-Aug-1961
Dale, Dick USA (Mass) Guitarist - "King of the Surf" 1937
Dion, Celine Canadian Singer 30-Mar-1968
Dylan, Bob USA (Min) Musician 24-May-1941
Easton, Elliott Musician
Everly, Phil USA Chicago The Everly Brothers 19-Jan-1939
Everly, Don USA Chicago The Everly Brothers 1-Feb-1937
Fleck, Bela Jazz Musician
Foster, David Canadian Musician, Producer,Composor
Frey, Glenn USA (Detroit) The Eagles 6-Nov-1948
Gales, Eric Guitarist
Gallagher, Noel UK Oasis singer/writer 29-May-1967
Garner, Errol (Dec'd) USA (Pittsberg) Jazz Pianist 15-Jun-1921
Gayle, Crystal USA (KY) Singer 9-Jan-1951
Geldof, Bob Singer 5-Oct-1954
Gibb, Barry UK (IOM) Bee Gees 1-Sep-1946
Gould, Glenn Pianist
Griffin, Kevin Guitarist & Lead Singer
Hanson, Zac USA Musician 22-Oct-1985
Hauser, Tim Singer with Manhatton Transfer 12-Dec-1941
Hayes, Isaac USA (TN) Musician "blues" 20-Aug-1942
Hedley, Thomas Vocalist/Musician
Hill, Lauryn USA (NJ) Singer 25-May-1975
Howdy, Boy Singer
King, Albert (Decd) USA (Miss) Musician 25-Apr-1923
King, Mark Guitarist
Knopfler, Mark Gutarist with Dire Straits
Leitch, Donovan Musician
Lennox, Annie Scotland Singer 25-Dec-1954
Manchester, Melissa USA (NY) Singer 15-Feb-1951
Mangione, Chuck USA Trumpet 29-Nov-1940
Marsalis, Wynton Musician
Martin, Ricky Puerto Rico Singer 24-Dec-1971
McBride, Martina USA Country Singer 29-Jul-1966
McCartney, Sir Paul UK The Beatles 18-Jun-1942
McKay, Al Guitarist/Writer
Melonson, Christie Marie Opera
Michael, George UK Wham -Singer/Songwriter 25-Jun-1963
Moore, Gary Northern Irish Guitarist with Thin Lizzie, Colosseum II, Skid Row 04-Apr-1942
Morris, Colonel Robert USA Songwriter, musician, country music
Mozart, Wolfgang Amedeus Composer
Nero, Peter USA Composer/Actor 22-May
Oliva, Jon Musician
Pace, Ian Drummer
Paganini, Niccolo Violinist
Paul, Alan USA (NJ) Singer with Manhatten Transfer 23-Nov-1949
Perry, Joe Singer with Aerosmith
Porter, Cole (Dec'd) USA (IN) Musician Composer 09-Jun-1892
Prokofiev, Serge Composer
Rachmaninoff, Sergei Russian Composer 01-Apr-1873
Ravel, Maurice (Dec'd) French Composer 07-Mar-1875
Rawls, Lou USA Musician 01-Dec-1936
Rush, Otis Musician
Schumann, Robert Composer
Seal, England Singer 19-Feb-1963
Seed, Christopher UK Pianist
Siegel, Janis USA (NY) Singer with Manhatten Transfer 23-July-1952
Simon, Carly USA Singer 25-Jun-1945
Simon, Paul Simon & Garfunkel 13-Oct-1941
Stardust, Ziggy UK Alter Ego of Bowie
Starr, Ringo Drummer with the Beatles 07-Jul-1940
Sting, Singer 02-Oct-1951
Stipe, Michael USA Lead singer with R.E.M. 04-Jan-1960
Szabo, Rich Trumpeter
Taylor, Roger UK Drummer, Guitarist and Singer 26-Jul-1949
Taylor, Roger Musician
Tim, Tiny (Dcd) USA Singer 12-Apr-1930
Transfer, The Manhatten USA All 4 are left-handed - see individual entries various
Van Beethoven, Ludwig German Composer 16-Dec-1770
White, Lenny Drummer
Williams, Paul USA Song-writer 19-Sep-1940
Womack, Bobby Musician
Yrjana, Aki W Musician

My name would be in there too but I haven't become famous yet.

Best,
Mike

I think being left-handed is a big help in playing RIGHT-HANDED guitar and bass (better strength and speed on the fret-board).

R.