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#229811 - 03/22/08 12:56 PM Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
Dnj Offline
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http://www.yamahapkowner.com/go.php?

...S900/SA_Sax.wma
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http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33346



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#229812 - 03/22/08 01:08 PM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
trident Offline
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Difficult to choose

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#229813 - 03/22/08 01:09 PM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
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The SA Sax is clearly more realistic...although to be fair, the Korg's Sax is drenched in too many effects.

Perhaps it would fair better if recorded a bit drier?

Ian
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#229814 - 03/22/08 03:18 PM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
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I don't get it... Do any of you guys actually listen to REAL sax players?

That Korg demo was unbelievable even if bone dry. And I mean unbelievable in a BAD way! I have NEVER heard a sax player sound like that, all air and wooly, and just plain weird at the legato note boundaries. He's after that Stan Getz sound. Go listen to some real Stan Getz, then play that again. Yuck!

Look, Yamaha may not have that particular breathy tenor sound, but what it DOES have is believability when you play a line. One note does not make a sax sound. Any keyboard out there has decent sax sounds, AS LONG AS YOU PLAY DETACHED. But the minute you string a line together, the SA technology stands head and shoulders above everything else. Everybody else can get the attack of the note right, but ONLY Yamaha get the 'ending' of the note right, because legato and detaché playing have totally different note-offs.

Sorry, Korg, but back to the drawing board....
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#229815 - 03/22/08 04:29 PM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
rikkisbears Offline
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Hi Diki,
I think the sound was actually user created, not Korg.

best wishes
Rikki

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Originally posted by Diki:
Sorry, Korg, but back to the drawing board....
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#229816 - 03/22/08 04:47 PM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
Diki Offline


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Yes, I got that part, Rikki. But it is the TECHNOLOGY of the Korg that lets it down (as do Roland and Ketron, too). Without the SA legato/staccato switching, just about ALL keyboard saxes suck when you try to play a convincing LINE (and who just wants to listen to one note?!)...
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#229817 - 03/23/08 06:15 AM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
spalding Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 582
Loc: Birmingham
There is no contest. The Yamaha 61 note keyboard sax beats the Korg 76 note keyboard sax hands down !! ( Please forgive me i was just playing with you Diki no offense intended honestly)

In all seriousness if we were not comparing that Korg sample to the Yamaha SA voice we would have been pleased with that sax. Its not perfect by a long way but very useable. But i guess the fact that we are holding the SA Sax as the standard to beat says something doesnt it.

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#229818 - 03/23/08 06:35 AM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
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Loc: New York
No contest. The fact that the Korg had to be drowned in reverb, chorus and delay just shows how desperate this user was to made it sound good. That's what everybody does when they have something to hide...

[This message has been edited by chony (edited 03-23-2008).]

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#229819 - 03/23/08 06:41 AM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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The Korg demo was bad because of a BAD performance. I didn't particularly like the Yamaha performance either.

Like Diki said, no sax player plays a sax like that. I'd like to hear it redone with someone who knows how to play.

The saxes on my 900 and 800 are different, but both very good and useful as lead instruments.

zuki
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#229820 - 03/23/08 09:04 AM Re: Yamaha SA Sax or Korg Pa2x You be the judge
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