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#226264 - 02/05/08 09:05 PM My take on the PA800
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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1. Sounds: A
2. Styles: B-
3. OS: C
4. Live play: C-

I love all the sounds. The piano is great, as with saxes, organs, basic sounds. The overall power is a big plus and there is some mind blowing stuff.

I have mixed emotions about the styles. I do like the unplugged, rock, dance, some country and a few big band. This board lacks the elegant, SIMPLE stuff - a fear I had. I love the 900 strings for ballads.

Styles: The variations seem OK and graduate nicely, but the fills in many styles are just plain awful - major glitches. I'd be afraid to hit them in live play. With that said, there are some awesome work-a-rounds, if you develop a good memory on what to push on time (I don't worry about that with my 900).

I'm still working on other things and I know the harmonizer will be a huge plus. Maybe that'll push it over the edge, but I have a long way to go in order to fall in love.

zuki
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#226265 - 02/05/08 10:00 PM Re: My take on the PA800
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#226266 - 02/05/08 11:38 PM Re: My take on the PA800
adimatis Offline
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zuki,

can you please compare these things for me?


s900/pa800

1. keyfeel
2. keys size
3. ease in OS navigation

thanks.
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#226267 - 02/06/08 06:22 AM Re: My take on the PA800
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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The keys are much nicer than the 900. They feel like they will not loosen up over the long haul (much improved over the PA50 I had).

They are 5 1/2" long.

The OS is different for me. I think it is easy enough for live play.The touch screen is nice to work with. The button layouts are good. I'm just not convince that it will allow me to play my medleys that are so fluid on the 900.

I like a lot of things about it and I'm not giving up yet.

zuki
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#226268 - 02/06/08 09:09 AM Re: My take on the PA800
spalding Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 582
Loc: Birmingham
Zuki. Dont get caught up in buying instruments for the sake of it. You will end up chasing your own tail. You cannot possibly even be considering giving up on a new arranger until you have had it for at least a couple of months. Its your money and i am not telling you how to spend it but this swapping and changing of instruments every couple of weeks is not going to help you fully appreciate what can be done with these instruments.

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#226269 - 02/06/08 03:26 PM Re: My take on the PA800
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4719
Hello Spalding,

I agree with you. I was a tad disappointed to know that I could NEVER replace the 900 live with the 800. They are just miles apart, each with their pluses. So, I decided to leave the 900 in the car and work out a bunch of tunes on the 800 that will sound much better. I have enough energy that I plan to lug both around for a while and offer my audience a really neat variety of music. It's for them, not for me, so I can't be lazy now that I got myself into this pickle With that said, I'm having fun with BOTH boards - really, the best of two worlds. I should be happy.

zuki
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#226270 - 02/06/08 06:09 PM Re: My take on the PA800
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Zuki,
what are the major glitches with the fills?

ie you just don't think they match, or is it because when you hit them, they start
at an odd spot & appear to glitch??
Also noticed when that happens sometimes the fill seems to sound a bit loud. Can be remidied easy enough, unless it's something else you're refferring to..

Are you actually missing a lot of your psr simpler styles??

I actually ended up cutting one of the styles down from the original 8 or 16 bars down to 4.
The variations worked perfectly for the first 4 bars ( I think it was the Bequine style), by the time it got to the 8th bar it no longer suited, so I just chopped off the last few bars.

Eventually I went a bit overboard & replaced the guitar , bass, & Intro/Ending 1
I just can't leave well enough alone haahaa.

Don't forget if you're looking for additional [url=styleshttp://www.createsongstyles.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0][url=styleshttp://www.createsongstyles.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0][url=styleshttp://www.createsongstyles.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0]styleshttp://www.createsongstyles.com/forum/index.php?board=5.0[/url][/url][/url]

and also the korg site.

best wishes
rikki
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zuki:
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[This message has been edited by rikkisbears (edited 02-06-2008).]
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#226271 - 02/06/08 08:31 PM Re: My take on the PA800
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4719
Hi Rikki,

Oh, I just found a few that are not in sync with the timing. But I'm not concerned with a few.

I played the board for many hours tonight (after 2 900 gigs) and I was EXTREMELY pleased again. I started using the songbook and learning how to create my own songs from existing styles.

This thing has me oohing and ahhing, like no other board has done before. The more I play it, the more I like it and that's a good thing

I'm a very happy camper at this point and can't wait to take it live.

Holy smokes, I haven't even dug into the harmonizer yet - fun times ahead.....

Thanks for your help as usual.

zuki
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#226272 - 02/06/08 08:53 PM Re: My take on the PA800
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Zuki,
not sure if your earlier PA had this function, but just in case
it's a simple fix.
For some bizzare reason , the default Korg setting for fills & breaks is "immediate."
In short, the fill sometimes starts in the middle of the bar, making it glitch.
If you want to get rid of it & have the fill start at the beginning of the next bar, nice & smooth, you'll have to go into style edit.
Pick th style,
press the record button,
Edit Existing style
Press Tab "Record 2 Cue"
Near the middle you'll see
Cue Mode for Fill 1, choose
"next measure, first measure"
then Write the style..
Simple as.
You may already be aware of this function, i'm finding it handy as I don't always hit fills at the right time.
Haven't been game to overwrite the existing yet, but I'll have to sooner or later or I'll run out of user style space haa haa

Nice to hear you're starting to enjoy your PA800 more. It really is an awesome keyboard.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zuki:
[B]Hi Rikki,
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#226273 - 02/06/08 09:11 PM Re: My take on the PA800
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4719
Thanks Rikki,

I'll give it a try. Yes, really enjoying the board

Anxious to put it through my EON2.

zuki
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