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#224211 - 01/16/08 12:39 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
kalimero Offline
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Registered: 07/23/07
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Fran,

One more thing.

Would it be too much from me if I ask You to record some nice electric guitar solo in mp3 and e-mail me so I can hear it for myself.

P.S. Don't worry if You don't consider yourself a good guitar player, I can guarantee You I'll be impressed anyway.

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#224212 - 01/16/08 12:41 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
spalding Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 582
Loc: Birmingham
I am only chipping in so that there is a little more balance in the virtues of the E60 compared to the PA800.

The E60 has very limited onboard sound editing capabilities unlike the PA800 which has the abilily to edit just about every parameter of the sound.

The E60 has no sampling capability not just in terms of recording and manipulating a sound but it cannot accept external manufacturers sounds so you are stuck with whatever Roland has provided you with and no expansion capabilities either.If you get tired of the roland sounds you are dead in the water! The Pa800 can accept a wide range of commerciallly available sounds giving the user far greater choice than the sounds it comes shipped with including tye ability to edit both the internal and sampled sounds.

Lastly the guitar mode on the roland is limited in that it can only be used in live play from what i have understood from the manual (plaese correct me if i am wrong fran).

Whereas the PA800 can use Guitar mode within the user create styles and sequencer and live

This makes the PA800 in my view hands down a far more versatile instrument than the E60.

Just my contribution to the discussion.

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#224213 - 01/16/08 12:44 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally posted by Diki:
It's a shame ONE manufacturer can't get it all right!



And from a financial standpoint they never will want to do that.....don't you see how the overall big game is played boyz?

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#224214 - 01/16/08 12:46 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3707
Loc: Motown
Just to keep everyone on track - the E-60 is a

76 note keyboard version

of the E-50. The buzz is about the 76 notes. I don't think Fran ever meant to say the E-60 was fair competition for the PA800. Donny hasn't said anything about his 800 vs the 60, but i bet he would say the 800 has more features.

Remember kids - 76 notes.

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#224215 - 01/16/08 01:03 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9204
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
The points I made about the E-60 and PA800 comparison..was in response to a question ..presented by Ian...

I mentioned they were completely different instruments and focused on common things..

It was not a put down of the PA800..

If I was going to suggest a more realistic comparison ..it would have been the E-80 verses the PA-800..

I do not know how well the guitar mode works[if it does work] in the styles..I have heard others say yes and some say no..

Personally I don't find anything wrong with Roland's choices of guitars written in there styles..They are among the best...

Maybe I am not a great guitar fan, but the SA tones [Yamaha] don't do it for me..

With in a style..I think the difference is mostly hype..
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#224216 - 01/16/08 01:13 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Like I said in previous posts ....all this back & forth mumbo jumbo mine is better then yours, sounds styles dont mean squat.....if you ain't a player......when does this infantile mentality stop?
Just ask yourself this........if there was the perfect keyboard made tomorrow & it was free for you to have .....would you sound better as a "player" or not!

I think not UNLESS you ARE A GOOD PLAYER all else is secondary.....or a faker.

I rest my case...........

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#224217 - 01/16/08 01:34 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Kalimero..where is your email address? Email me and I will send demo
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#224218 - 01/16/08 01:34 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10596
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
With in a style..I think the difference is mostly hype..


Naaah...it ain't hype Fran...I reckon my cat could tell the difference.

Mega voices make the guitar parts in a style come alive...SA voices do the same for the melody.

Imagine how cool the "Guitar Mode" on the Korg or Roland would sound with mega or SA guitars.

The real kicker would be Yamaha making a "guitar mode" of their own in the Tyros3.

Ian


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#224219 - 01/16/08 01:51 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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#224220 - 01/16/08 01:54 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Ian, I haven't heard anyone that could play the "special" voices in real time..and for a guitar mode..you would have to play according to the mode's techniques..

Maybe that is why Yamaha has stayed away from the Guitar mode..
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