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#220182 - 09/17/03 01:14 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
The Pro Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 1087
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
I've said it before but it bears repeating: if you're gonna go then go-rilla! Getting a low or mid-range keyboard will always leave you wondering what you could do if you had a first-rate instrument. That's why you should pass on the Tyros in favor of the 9000 Pro (bahahahaha)...
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#220183 - 09/17/03 02:37 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
Marilyn Boissoneault Offline
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Registered: 06/07/00
Posts: 219
Loc: Melbourne, Florida, USA
I have a KN7000 and bought a PSR2100 as a second keyboard recently. It is quite similar to the Tyros. I've wanted a lighter weight keyboard for several years. The PSR2100 is only 23 pounds, sounds great, has a lot of good features. It's my first Yamaha keyboard since the late 80's, and I'm impressed!

In answer to your question, it all depends on WHY you're buying a second keyboard. The Tyros isn't real heavy, but I don't like it having no internal speakers. Also it's quite a bit larger in size. So it didn't full my needs.

Just my two cents on the subject.

I suspect you might be happy with either one of them.

Marilyn

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#220184 - 09/17/03 06:12 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
I own both the PSR2000 and the Tyros and the 2000 remains in the closet. In addition to all the pro Tyros comments given by the others, its substantially improved keyboard feel alone make it much 'more satisfying' for me to play.

btw: The 'street price' difference between the Tyros & PSR2100 is actually $1000-1200, not 2 grand ($2000) as rick987 had suggested. I think the PSR2100 a terrific bang for the buck, but (for me) that the additional feature enhancements the Tyros offers make it well worth the extra expense. The only drawback to the Tyros vs PSR2100 is that it doesn't include built in speakers, but the Tyros 'add on' (TRSMS01) speakers sound significantly better than the one's on the PSR2100, and are imho not an inconvenience to take separately or attach (a matter of 10 seconds). Here are some Tyros features not included on the PSR2100 which make a difference to me:

1) Hard drive support

2) Significantly improved 'keyboard action' build quality with much improved (responsive) action.

3) LARGE 'color' tilt LCD screen with much larger font size for much easier reading & improved navigation ease.

4) LARGER physical 'navigation' buttons. Primary arranger buttons are also lighted and change color making for easier confirmation of current status.

5) Dedicated 'intro' (3 each) buttons

6) Dedicated 'ending' (3 each) buttons

7) Separate dedicated mic volume & mic trim buttons located conveniently on top of keyboard for easy on the fly adjustment

8) 3 assignable foot controllers vs 2 on the 2000

9) USB support to provide easy internal Tyros 'file organization' & convenient data backup to PC/CD/DVD. Though the Tyros includes a floppy disk slot, I never need to use it because it's much more convenient (and quicker) to transfer data back & forth between my PC & Tyros via USB.

10) ability to easily edit & customize Tyros voices (sounds) remotely from your desktop PC via "Yamaha Voice Editor" Windows software. The PSR2000 doesn't include this.


Scott

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#220185 - 09/17/03 07:12 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
Douglas Dean Offline
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Registered: 04/15/02
Posts: 554
Loc: Prospect Heights IL USA
Quote: Bebop - “It is even harder when he is younger then we are :-)”
Well la-de-da! I might only be a couple months past seventy seven but I have lived much faster than you guys, so there! I must be older! I already got seventeen grand kids and still climbing, which proves it.

Grandpa Doug
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#220186 - 09/17/03 08:43 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Hi G. Doug, Wow, Seventeen grandchildren, I thought I was doing good with fourteen.

And----you just got into to your 77th--Hmmm!
that's great. You sound like a great guy, nice.

John C. 77--Wow

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#220187 - 09/18/03 07:11 AM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
It's my first Yamaha keyboard since the late 80's, and I'm impressed!

Hi Marilyn,Thanks for your reply. I have playd Technics for many years, when I played the PSR 2100 I felt different, I played different. Could you share what you feel when you play the Yamaha? No facts, just feelings.

Thanks so much, John C

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#220188 - 09/18/03 08:26 AM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
I'm having problems adjusting to the smaller key width on the Yamaha keyboards. (Tyros is the SAME as the 2100 !) My hands want to go to the correct position, but the PSR won't let 'em ! Grrrr !
Why on earth did they shrink these keys ????
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#220189 - 09/18/03 10:14 AM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
sk880user Offline
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Registered: 01/26/01
Posts: 1255
Loc: United States
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
btw: The 'street price' difference between the Tyros & PSR2100 is actually $1000-1200,


That is a good deal if it is true.

[This message has been edited by sk880user (edited 09-18-2003).]

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#220190 - 09/18/03 03:20 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
I own the PSR2100. For $200 I purchased the HDM2, which is a flash drive you can install in the keyboard, and then it creates up to 170 virtual floppy drives. You can easily change banks during a performance to go to your next favorite midi or style.

Then I purchased a midi controlled sustain switch, so I still get three foot controllers.

I have downloaded all of the Tyros styles which sound great on my keyboard.

So I'm missing the feel, the megavoices, the live! drums, and the ease of a hard drive for storing registrations. You can get all of this for less than $1400, about $1000 less than a Tyros.

Beakybird

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#220191 - 09/18/03 03:47 PM Re: PSR 2100 or Tyros
Marilyn Boissoneault Offline
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Registered: 06/07/00
Posts: 219
Loc: Melbourne, Florida, USA
I'm not sure how to answer your question. First, I should explain I have NOT played Technic's instruments for years. I played Roland keyboards for many years. Roland seemed to lose their way a few years back in designing keyboards.....at least in my opinion. That is when I discovered Technic's. I happened to stumble across a KN6000 at a music store. I loved it and bought it, then upgraded to the Kn7000, which I like even better. The only real squawk I have about the KN is it's too heavy for me.

I have been hearing all the good words on the Yamaha keyboards and finally decided to take a plunge on one of those. How do I feel, I don't know. I enjoy playing it,I like the operating system. I hadn't played Technic's long enough to have a problem getting used to Yamaha. I have a lot of fun playing it. The support on the internet for it is absolutely the greatest. Styles everywhere!

I know that doesn't really answer your question, but I don't know how to answer it!
I enjoy both keyboards, the sounds and styles are quite different.

Marilyn

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Originally posted by bruno123:
It's my first Yamaha keyboard since the late 80's, and I'm impressed!

Hi Marilyn,Thanks for your reply. I have playd Technics for many years, when I played the PSR 2100 I felt different, I played different. Could you share what you feel when you play the Yamaha? No facts, just feelings.

Thanks so much, John C


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