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#207561 - 06/20/02 11:47 AM SD1 Function question
justforfun000 Offline
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I was scared it'd be missed in the other post. In response to someone who tried to answer this question I said:

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so back to the other response about the start/stop key. I'm still not sure if we understood each other. Wait, let me have another read through of your response....

Hmmm, no I don't think you got me. Let me put it this way. When I am actually playing an arrangement, I can press the start/stop button and it lights up. The instant ALL notes are let go with no pedal either, then the music stops comletely. Then it starts the instant I touch the board, and stops again if I stop. It will stay in this mode until I push the start/stop button again, and turn it off.

So lets say I was doing something like "When a man loves a woman" I'm playing the song and I'm at "Baby please don't treat me badddd." (I press the start/stop button, I stop playing the keyboard at the end of the word bad. Silence.

Now I'm coming back in, and lets say I want to ham it up. I sing really slow with pauses in between.

When (press D chord for a second, lift up, silence again)

A (press D chord for a second, lift up, silence again)

(Play G)Maaaan loves a woman.

Now every time I hit the chord for a second, no matter when I chose, it starts the sequence with a cymbal crash, because it is technically the start of a measure whenever it hit it anew.

So you can see how useful this would be for live application. On songs like me and bobby mcgee, at the end I'm doing a fancy belt at the end while my left hand is rapidly banging bass notes, and because I'm not sustaining them, it's also hitting the cymbal over and over like a crashfest.

It works great for those points I gave as an example.

So, the million dollar question. Can this be done in Solton?


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#207562 - 06/20/02 08:58 PM Re: SD1 Function question
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Actually I did not miss it and tried to answer a second time around in your other thread. Go check and let me know if it helps.

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#207563 - 06/20/02 09:53 PM Re: SD1 Function question
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Justforfun000,

This feature currently exists on the SD1, and all X-series via the use of the KEY START and KEY STOP buttons - (depending on if either one or both are on/off)... hope I didn't confuse you on that last part!
With the KEY STOP only on, if you play the chord and release immidiately, the arranger will stop; however if you play and hold the chord for a number of seconds (programmable in UTILITIES) before release, the arranger will keep playing!

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#207564 - 06/20/02 09:56 PM Re: SD1 Function question
Mosiqaar Offline
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my point exactly...AJ said the same thing I said in ur other thread but in different words...so if u don't get it, then u need to check ur hardware
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#207565 - 06/21/02 08:47 AM Re: SD1 Function question
justforfun000 Offline
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LOL. Ok, we did establish that.

I already understood that it will stop when I have the button on and lift my hands up.

But I still didn't get a definite answer on what happens when you begin to play again. Will it start the arrangement automatically with a cymbal crash at the beginning of the measure?

and can I just start in again lift hands, stop again, start again, etc. without pushing any more buttons? see there is only one button (start/stop) on the Korg, where there is apparently two on the solton. I don't understand why they would need them seperate, but in any event, like I illustrated, I can with whatever rapidity I want keep lifting off all contact with the keyboard and starting again and do it very quickly so the arrangement keeps starting in along with the cymbal crash. Therefore allowing live-controlled "big endings"

I wish I could show somebody what I mean in person, This is very frustrating because it's such a simple thing but apparently difficult to be sure words are fully explaining it.

Anyhow, I will check the other post and see if that explained it completely. I suppose I should have checked there first. Oh well.
So now do you get my question fully?

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#207566 - 06/22/02 09:15 AM Re: SD1 Function question
Mike H Offline
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Just for Fun
In case you didn't get your answer - I'll have a go at it.....

The SD1 has an cymbal auto-crash function which applies only to the ends of Intros and Fills - On the other hand - When you retrigger a pattern - through any method..starting with a cymbal crash would depend on what is programmed in your style (you could program one in in pattern edit)

The Key Start and Key Stop button functions:

Key Start Alone - play starts at key press and never stops until the arranger is stopped

Key Stop Alone - play starts at key press but if the key strike was of short duration (set in utility) - the arranger stops when you pick up your hand - but will continue if you hold it down for longer than the short duration time parameter. The next time you strike the keys - the same situation exists and the pattern retriggers on every stop.

Key Start and Key Stop together - the arranger starts when you press and hold a key - but stops whenever you let up no matter how long you have held it. The pattern is retriggered each time

Does that sound right??

Mike

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#207567 - 06/22/02 04:58 PM Re: SD1 Function question
justforfun000 Offline
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Perfect. That explains it exactly.

Thank you very much. I just realized that the way you described the two buttons pushed together is the same as the function of the start/stop key in Korg. And not every arrangement with the pattern starts with a cymbal crash either, but MOST do because it's extremely common after a fill, or at the start of a verse.

So essentially it will do the same thing. WOO HOO.

Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow.

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