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#203966 - 11/06/07 03:00 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
Diki Offline


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Whack most of these B3 clones through a REAL 147, and it's pretty hard to tell the difference, IMO.

There is more difference between two B3's of differing vintages and level of upkeep than between a Nord and an XK3, from what I've heard, as long as you bathe them in a tub of Leslie 147!

To sit down and PLAY, well, even Hammond haven't managed to emulate the FEEL of a nicely worn-in original B3's keyboard (I have recently played all the new Hammond clones except the XK1, including the new 'Portable-B' and New B3), so, as far as I am concerned, they ALL are one step removed from totally fooling ME, but step back twenty feet and just LISTEN, as long as you use a 147 or 145, they are ALL good enough for me!

Now if I could only PLAY like Jimmy! (or Tony, or Joey, or....!)
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#203967 - 11/06/07 03:13 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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You're right, Diki. I have a 145 and a 147 RV.

Tubes make the difference, and real doppler is far better than simulation.

R.

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#203968 - 11/06/07 04:38 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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Russ, Diki, you're both correct.....BUT, where weight is an issue, ie. when it requires frequent transport, even if you go the Nord route, what's the point if you have to lug around a 100 lb.??? Leslie. For that reason, the criterion for me is; how close is it WITHOUT a Leslie? So far, the C1 "meets my needs" in that regard, although I would definitely have a Leslie permanently in my home or on a semi-permanent job site (but only if I were using the organ as my primary instrument).

But of course, sound isn't everything. I'm guessing that guys like Tony Monaco, Joey D., et al, would still sound pretty darn good on a C1 or any other TOTL clonewheel. The lack of physical drawbars on the C1 is a little awkward, but I'm the type of throwback who only uses 4 or 5 registrations anyway, and that can be easily handled by 1 program button (120 programs), and two "live" buttons. All three buttons gives you three different presets (on individual buttons) so that at any given time, you have 9 registrations instantly available. I never fiddle with "drawbars" in realtime. I'm just saying, it works for me.

chas
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#203969 - 11/06/07 04:44 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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Chas, I have a cool little Motion Sound top box. It's just the top horn. Don't know if they still make it, but it's pretty cool, light and sounds good. Runs on one tube plus transistors for that wonderfully nasty sound.

You're right. I wouldn't play any one nighters with a Nord or anything else AND drag around a tube Leslie.


R.

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#203970 - 11/06/07 04:46 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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#203971 - 11/06/07 06:10 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
Diki Offline


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Yeah, I got one of those, too...

Worst thing about the G70 (OK, second worse after no Chord Sequencer!)? No individual out for the VK-Hammond clone section...

Play THAT into a Motion-Sound, and I might forget about the Nord altogether...
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#203972 - 11/06/07 06:29 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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#203973 - 11/06/07 06:38 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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Whats the difference between the models?
B3/C3/A100
http://b3world.com/video/difference.ram

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#203974 - 11/07/07 06:39 AM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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I've had my Motion sound for about 11 years. It looks similar to the current Pro-3, but has a visible tube in the front, under a clear panel.

Anxious to try it with the Nord.


R.

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#203975 - 11/07/07 02:07 PM Re: Da Man Yea.........Hammond
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Over in "The Bar" I posted about a friend, Winston Walls. He's the guy who bills himself as "The Greatest B-3 Player You Never Heard Of".

He's a monster who scares the hell out of most of the better known players. Check him out. He's unbelievable! I had the unsettling pleasure of playing guitar with him many times in the 70's here in Lexington. He makes some nationally known players sound like beginners.

Russ

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