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#194293 - 12/19/06 11:05 PM how much shakeing is not too much?
adimatis Offline
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i have a X type of stand for my E60. i noticed when i play it standing (so the angle of stand is smaller) there is a shakeing type of movement that develops while playing the keys. when i play the keyboard with a larger angle (sitting) this movement does not occure.
my question is, does it harm the keyboard or not? is not a tremendious vibration, but is still a vibration, which i know is not recomended.
what do you think?
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#194294 - 12/20/06 04:31 AM Re: how much shakeing is not too much?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Originally posted by adimatis:
my question is, does it harm the keyboard or not?


Ideally, there wouldn't be any movement. Is it hurting it? Hard to say...If its as mild as you describe, probably not but over time, it might advance some normal wear/tear issues a tad.

When you play standing, you inevitably place more weight upon the keyboard as you play...When you're sitting, its not as much.

I would suggest upgrading to a heartier kb stand.

I can't stand it if my KB jiggles around.

Bill in Dayton
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#194295 - 12/20/06 05:21 AM Re: how much shakeing is not too much?
travlin'easy Offline
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Either your keyboard stand is very lightweight, or you're really hitting the keys hard. If the stand is relatively sturdy, you're hitting the keys way too hard and will eventully damage the keypads. If the stand is so light that it vibrates with light key strokes, you should seriously consider something a bit sturdier. There's no such thing as a stand that is too sturdy--but a few members had lightweight X stands collapse.

Good Luck,

Gary

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#194296 - 12/20/06 11:51 AM Re: how much shakeing is not too much?
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If you want to stop bounce altogether, try one of these
http://www.zzounds.com/item--QLKWS550

The legs are at the corners, so bounces never happen.

I still use an amazing single tier X-stand that the now defunct Invisible Stands made. Unlike all other X stands, the legs were not vertical, but angled away from you (and braced at both ends) so that, as you load it up with more weight, tension actually makes it stiffer and more stable!

I wish they were still in business.... these were amazing! (I also have one of their triple tier stands - a pig to set up, but very sturdy)

However..... you'll find a tempo that makes ANY X-stand bounce, just like marching over a bridge! If you want to eliminate the bounce altogether, try the Quiklok....

And no, it won't hurt your keyboard unless it falls off the stand! People complain about carrying heavier arrangers, but put them on a stand, and their mass makes them FAR harder to make bounce!
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#194297 - 12/20/06 05:25 PM Re: how much shakeing is not too much?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
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Originally posted by Diki:
If you want to stop bounce altogether, try one of these
http://www.zzounds.com/item--QLKWS550



That's what I've used for almost 8 years, very happy with it...

Bill
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#194298 - 12/20/06 09:54 PM Re: how much shakeing is not too much?
adimatis Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: Oradea, RO
thanks guys!
now, i should mention also that my stand is double X (what is the right name for it?) and it's suppose to hold up to 75 kg.
my e60 is about 12-13 kg i think, is much under the maximum.
and i just bought the stand, it's a good brand, wellknown here PROEL.

i really do not hit the keys that strongly.


so, i assume is all about finding a right spot. i might have to sit while playing... which i dont mind actually!



[This message has been edited by adimatis (edited 12-20-2006).]
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#194299 - 12/21/06 04:49 AM Re: how much shakeing is not too much?
travlin'easy Offline
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
adimatis,

Sitting down is the only way to go, especially when you're performing every day of the week. It saves your feet, knees, hips, and absolutely no one cares one way or another if you are sitting or standing while performing. Get yourself a good, sturdy, comfortable seat that is easily transported and you'll enjoy those 4-hour gigs a whole lot more.

Cheers,

Gary

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