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#186494 - 01/02/04 02:09 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
trtjazz Offline
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Tony,
No offense taken, it's all good info. I'm thinking about redoing the vocals today. I'll repost the cut with drier vocals if I do.
thanks,
Terry

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#186495 - 01/02/04 02:20 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
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Registered: 06/24/99
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Terry,

The MP3 is not a (single) mono-track, there is a left- and right-part. Both parts contain the same audio what results in a MONO-sounding image.
While recording a stereo-signal you have to set the panning of both channels oposite (one full left and the other full-right.

Your voice does NOT have too much reverb at all, there is something very wrong with your phases or settings/wiring.

Could you please record a sample containing only your voice ? (starting center clean, pan to left, pan to right, pan to center, add reverb) Only counting from 1 to 1000 is fine

Roel

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#186496 - 01/02/04 04:56 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
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Roel,
I'll doing some recording today as you suggest....because I'm not sure I am getting what you are saying here entirely, so I'd like to learn more about it from you.

The other thing I thought we might do as a learning experience for me anyway (and perhaps all), if you're up for it, is for me to send you say a minute or two's worth of this cut in single wavs of all the tracks and have you do a mix of it.

I think we might all benefit from your expertise. What do you think?
Terry

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#186497 - 01/02/04 05:45 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
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That is OK Terry !
Perhaps you can send every track as an MP3, what saves bytes (= time)
I'd like to receive a clean (without effects or reverb) vocal track as well, so I can use my TC.

I'll do my very best.

Roel

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#186498 - 01/02/04 07:17 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
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Registered: 11/17/03
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Loc: Ft Collins Colorado, USA
Hi Terry,

It sounds to me like you are too far away from the mic and are getting too much "room space" in the vocal. Either that or you aren't mixing the vocal loud enough, 'cause I agree that the vocal sounds somewhat like it is in a tunnel. But I really like the basic quality of your voice; a lot!

Tom

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#186499 - 01/02/04 09:05 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Terry,

After listening to your latest cut, I tend to agree somewhat with some of the above comments--but not all. First and foremost, you do have a relatively good voice, breath control is good to excellent and the timing is right on the money.

Unfortunately, your voice is being overshadowed by the accompaniment, and yes, there is still too much reverb. #32 is much too high for your voice, and I would suggest lowering the setting to at least 25 or less. Then back off on the drums and bass by about the same amount, or bring the vocal volume up by that amount. This should make a huge difference.

Good Luck,

Gary
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#186500 - 01/02/04 06:02 PM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
beachbum Offline
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Registered: 11/18/02
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Loc: Austin
Hey Terry,
Listened to the samples... Good stuff. However, as I listened "Singing the Blues" the vocals where much clearer and up front. I suggest you use those settings when doing vocal work... It seemed like that was recorded totally different than the rest. AT least vocally... I'd toss a little treble up to.. But that's just me... I love treb...
I've heard most of this before but this was my observation on this trip....
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#186501 - 01/02/04 08:21 PM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
trtjazz Offline
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Thanks all...
Roel, I'll put it together, re-record the vocals totally dry and send to you.....I look forward to hearing what you do with it all.

Tom,
Sounds like you're hearing the same as most somewhat of the tunnel from too much reverb.Thanks for the listen and feedback.

Gary, thanks that seems to be the consensous of opinions here, so I am going to have to take a harder look at how much reverb I'm using in the future.

DJ,
Thanks the different cuts do have different feels to them depending on what it was I was trying to say and how. Here's an interesting thing though all used the exact same vocal settings, i.e. reverb etc. some had harmonies some not.
thanks all,
Terry

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#186502 - 01/02/04 09:03 PM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
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Registered: 11/10/00
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Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Terry.. Nice tunes that fit your voice very well. I too would like to see less of that "tunnel" effect and would like to hear your voice brought more up front in the mix. It's not just the amount of reverb that I'm hearing, but also what frequencies are accented and where the vocals "sit" in the mix that gives it the so called "tunnel" effect. You have a good voice, and as I stated in the beginning, it fits well with the music.

AJ

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#186503 - 01/03/04 02:34 AM Re: Vocal No harmony as suggested
trtjazz Offline
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AJ,
Thanks for taking the time. That seems to be the consensus of opinion. I hope to rerecord the vocals totally dry today and send it all to Roel and hear what he does with it. Should be a great learning experience I think for me.
Terry

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