Hi Gary, Would you be kind enough to transmit your mic settings suitable for the PSR3000, Many Thanks.

Psr3k Mic Settings

Rear Gain Pod 9 o’clock


Low Mid High
80/+2 2.0/+0 10k/+9


Noise gate Compressor
Off/-60 on/-20/5.0/110


play/off/lower/0-bal/auto/xf/off/ vol127

KB EQ

0.7 / 80Hz 2-2-0-3-7

Goerge,

Use settings that are in the previous post. I tried to send you the registration file, but using the email address on the page, but they came back saying wrong address.

Gary

[This message has been edited by travlin'easy (edited 09-05-2004).]

Gary, these settings are very different from those posted in your article on the psrtutorial website. Is this your latest experience with using the Crown CM311? I'm following your lead and have just ordered the headset.

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Graham

Graham,

Since purchasing the PSR-3000, I've had to modify the settings for all my mics. The onboard processor is a bit different that the PSR-2000, which is where the orriginal settings came from.

The Crown CM-311-A has been a fantastic headset mic, particularly when it comes to vocal quality. It's not the most comfortable headset mic I've used, but I expect to modify the headgear in the near future to overcome this.

Anyone that has enjoyed the freedom a headset mic offers, and has the ability to utilize voice control for personalized effects, will really love the Crown CM-311-A. I purchased mine on the advice of Eddie (Btweengigs) and can honestly say it was well worth the investment.

Gary

Oh no, and I thought this was going to be easy. Do you believe my Tyros would be closer to the 2000 or 3000?

One of the larger changes was turning the noise gate off and the compressor on. Sorry, but I'm a novice at this.

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Graham

From what I've read, the vocal processor in the Tyros is closer to the 3000.

Gary

OK, I'll set the above settings up as #2 on the SetUp registration bank, and compare with the tutorial setting that I saved on #1.

I just noticed that SVP World are showing your PSR 2000 article to be applicable to the Tyros...............
http://www.svpworld.com/tyrospsrmic.htm

Confused?, I am now.

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Graham

Graham,

Much of this will depend on the microphone you are using. Additionally, there are slight differences between mics, even from the same model and manufacturer.

I encourage everyone to work with the settings, adjust them to suit your needs, and above all, let your ears be the final judge. In my case, the hearing was the third thing to go, therefore, I consult with my spouse to make the final decission of sound quality. After more than 4 decades of nuptual bliss, she has no qualms about provided me with her unbiased opinion on anything.

Gary

I have a wife like that too (even after only 9 years and a day)!

Thanks Gary, I was just looking for a start point so I wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel.

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Graham

I've also owned the Crown CM311A for 2 1/2 years, and I'm extremely happy with it.

I am also happy with many of Gary's settings. I've tweaked them a bit for my vocals.

Beakybird

Gary, Beakybird

Can you compare the crown CM311A in terms of quality of sound to a Shure Beta 58 A?

Shure makes the Beta 54 headset microphone. Has anybody tried it?

Thanks

STAM

Though I have not tried the 58A yet, the CM-311-A is equal to the Sennheiser 855e and the SM58. As for the Shure 54 headset mic, I have only talked with someone that had one, and he said he wished he had purchased the CM-311-A instead.

Good Luck,

Gary

Gar,
You know I love ya, but I think the Crown sounds totally different from those mics you mentioned. Proximity effect aside, they have comepletely different tone colors. The Senheiser and the Shure don't even sound like they are on the same block.

I know you like the headset design, but c'mon ....... these three mics are apples, oranges and grapefruits !

Thank you Gary for the reply

Stam

I don't agree Dave, and neither does anyone who listened to the post I made several months ago when I performed several songs using the Sennheiser 855E and Crown CM-311-A. No one knew which mic was which until after their evaluation. Most everyone thought the Crown was actually the Sennheiser. Those of us that use headset mics were equally astonished at the results. Don't go by the specification sheets--evaluate them by recording something, then listening carefully to it. It works for me!

Gary

I have changed my 3k MIC settings from the above due to my new PA system setup
[Two Mackie SRM350's/Roland KCW1 Sub ...
I am now using a Shure beta 58 Mic which is wonderful for my voice.

Psr 3k Mic Settings

Rear Mic Gain Pod 9 O’clock


Low Mid High
80/-1 2.0/+0 10k/+5


Noise gate Compressor
Off/-60 on/-20/5.0/110


play/off/lower/0-bal/auto/xf/off/ vol110

KB EQ

0.7 / 80Hz 2-2-0-3-7

Donny, are all your KB EQ settings +, i.e.

+2, +2, 0, +3, +7

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Graham

Gary, the Crown might sound like the Sennheiser, but the Sennheiser doesn't sound like the SM58. They are way apart. I have to change my settings dramatically when I change from SM58 to the 855.
Basically the 855 sounds much like the Shure SM87, a much more expensive and responsive mic, and I e.q. them much the same. In fact neither needs much e.q. at all.
I also use a Samson R11 some, and, because of the tremendous amount of proximity effect, almost all the bass must be rolled off.
DonM

Hi Graham..

Yes all EQ is +

I only change the "LOW" sometimes depending on the room characteristics when I do a sound check, due to Rugs, Curtains, Tile, etc etc.....

Yep, you're right about the SM58 not sounding like the Sennheiser. To me, the Sennheiser sounds better.

Gary

Absolutely!
DonM

What is the best way to plug in a mic (Beta 58a) into a PSR3000, what brand of cable and adapter ? Or do I need a mixer ? Thanks.

A standard XLR to 1/4-inch phono cable will do the job.

Gary

I was told that I needed an impedance transformer in a music store. In fact a sales person tried to use a regular XLR to 1/4 inch cable with Beta 58a and plug into a mixer mono channel without sucess. He then told me to buy an XLR cable and a separate transformer. I am trying to find out from an actual Beta 58a owner that plugs the mic directly into the PSR3000 what is the correct way to go. Thanks.

You do not need a transformer.
DonM

There are two XLR adapters that terminate into 1/4-inch plugs, only one of which will work. The one that terminates into a 1/4-inch mono will work. The one that terminates into a 1/4-inch stereo will not work. Additionally, Yamaha's wiring diagram for the adapter cable that is posted on their site will not work--the pins on the XLR are incorrectly numbered. Pin #3 is always the hot pin on the XLR and should connect to the tip of the 1/4-inch plug. Pins #1 & #2 are both grounded and connect to the sleeve.

Gary

Gary and Don, thank you. I got it. Last question - what brand of cable is considered good and where to get it. I was told that pros use Monster and Mogami brands. But I suspect that this type of application is not popular as most people use XLR cables to plug into a mixer, so these brands may not have XLR to 1/4 mono plug cable. Thanks again for the replies.