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#183067 - 11/22/04 02:28 PM
Re: XP-30
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#183068 - 11/22/04 04:17 PM
Re: XP-30
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The XP-30 is basically a performance synth. It does not have a sequencer, and I could be wrong, but I don't remember it having any ability to play anything from smart media. The board is in the XP series which consist of the XP-30/50/60/80. It has tons of sounds, great key feel, good construction, and more. Again it's primarily a performance synth.
Squeak
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#183076 - 11/22/04 11:24 PM
Re: XP-30
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Originally posted by Pennywizz6: Thanks allot jamman you really cleared it up and saved me hehe, i have really close
to buying it
Can you reccomend a good used board that will do what I want? It needs to have mixed
song playback via 3 1/2 or media cards and it has to have a very wide range of sounds
with good techo styles. Preferably a used roland. Possibly a korg if I can find something
cheap enough.
Thanks!
Philwhat's your budget? good techno styles? do you want an arranger? if not-(if you can program/write your songs or get /buy mid files) best roland out there under /around 400-700$ is XP50(hard seq),60 and 80(eaiser seq d/t better display,larger seq mem,more realtime sliders,apr),they are great for live band and seq gig work.though they have 8 mb onboard sounds are much fuller more tuned for pro use.(all can accept 4 X 8mb exp boards). all of them are better than korg wkstations of their time(n364)etc because their sound editing is deeper(not just lowpass filters), they have RPS with no loading and DIRECT DISK PLAY -a must have feature for seq gigs for nonstop music. triton le(SM card),used classic triton(onboard sampling),yam exr 7,5 can also be on the list.tritons are more preffered for dance music and also for their ease of use. I would stay away from psr 550(unless it's less than 200$).psr 2000,2100 only if you use arranger function,if not go for above workstations. korg arrangers that can write syles(i-30,I3 and PAs etc)(is-40,50,i4,5s,ix300 etc can't)also have full func seq so it'll be wise to consider them if you can find them cheap.They'll have workstation programs and similar(not identical) seq and most have direct disk play(except-I3). [This message has been edited by jamman (edited 11-23-2004).]
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#183078 - 11/23/04 06:50 PM
Re: XP-30
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The more I hear about what you want to do---the more I still say the WK-3000 or 3500 will work for you. I don't know if you remember or not, but the new WK's have an SMF player. You can load tons of SMF's into the board say prior to a performance, and call them up very quickly. Plus the SMF's are stored in memory even if the power chord is disconnected from the board. For $450 you could get a WK-3500... They sell for $399 here in the US.
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#183080 - 11/23/04 07:22 PM
Re: XP-30
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If you can gather up a little more money the XP-60 is well worth it! I used to own an XP-60. One hell of a sequencer on that thing... It has sliders, good sounds, good effects, light weight. semi-weighted keys, voice memory can be expanded (I think up to 4 cards). It's a great synth. I'd take it over the XP-50 any day.
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#183082 - 11/23/04 07:49 PM
Re: XP-30
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I think you'll be happy with the XP. There's another cool feature it has (that other synths have as well), and that's the ability to assign full patterns to individual keys, and trigger them on the fly. It's a really cool feature for live performance and recording.
Squeak
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#183084 - 11/23/04 08:04 PM
Re: XP-30
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I think it came out in 1996. It is a very sturdy board too. The body is metal, and has the usual plastic end caps like on most synths The only thing I've heard about was a couple users complained that after years of owning them and gigging with them 5 days a week for years noticed the weights under the keys were begining to come loose. Roland said the problem was only limited to a few of the synths (due to a problem in the manufacturing plant). From what I was told the fix is really easy and if they fall out can easily be reglued by the user. I don't know the name of the glue, but I was told it can be bought in department stores. The OS might be a little confusing at first if you're not used to Roland synths though, but once you get the hang of it navigating the board is a breeze. Squeak
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#183087 - 11/23/04 08:32 PM
Re: XP-30
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It's not really difficult to operate. Personally I don't think it's the ideal (first) synth for someone who has very little experience, but it's by no means one of the hardest to navigate. The manual will give you so much, but you'll learn more hands on. The area I'd say most newbies got hung up on was sequencing. If memory serves me correctly there was (3) modes. Voice, Performance, and Drum. Sequencing of multiple tracks was done under Performance mode. This confused a lot of newbies. It's like that with other synths as well. I think he'll be fine with it. He just has to give it time and be willing to learn the OS.
Squeak
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#183092 - 11/25/04 06:30 AM
Re: XP-30
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#183093 - 11/25/04 08:18 AM
Re: XP-30
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#183094 - 11/25/04 04:14 PM
Re: XP-30
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Penny, Congrats! I think you'll like the XP-60. The real power behind that synth is in the expansion cards. If you can..., get a few of those and install them.
Squeak
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#183095 - 11/25/04 05:00 PM
Re: XP-30
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I recently bought a demo unit (XP-30) with full warranty and with a great price. It's not the most intuitive instrument, but quite powerful when we are familiar with it. If I'm not mistaken, this was the last of the XP series, so it benefits from a superior quality 24 bit DAC, as opposed to 16 bit DACs of other XPs. Not all sounds are usable or useful, but it has one of the most impressive pallette of sounds in a synth (something like 1700 patches), with 3 expansion cards built in from factory. It has some weaknesses in basic sounds like piano, rhodes and organs. Maybe they can be compensated by the use of expansion cards, but I'm almost sure these cannot match the quality of more recent generations of samples. One great feature is a smartmedia slot to store one's own patches/performances, but unfortunately it uses very rare 2Mb and 4Mb 5V cards. However they can be found on ebay.
-- José.
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#183097 - 11/26/04 07:02 PM
Re: XP-30
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Starkeeper, What type of amp was the salesman playing the XP through? I'm a former owner of the XP-60, and played the 30 on many occasions. It is by far greater in sound quality than the EM. Plus the 30 has several expansion cards already installed. Play the XP-30 through a good amp or a good set of stereo powered monitors and you'll hear how strong the patches are on the XP.
Also want to add that you have to be cautious with the salesperson when it comes to demoing a board. I personally have found that the reasons boards I've tried sounded flat and lifeless was actually not the board, but because some idiot has the amp EQ settings all screwed up. Plus make sure the sales person knows about keyboards and keyboard amps. Many shops I've been to actually have the synths hooked up to "guitar amps" rather than a good keyboard amp. Poor EQ setttings on amps will really screw up a demo for a synth. Squeak
[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 11-26-2004).]
[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 11-26-2004).]
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