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#178419 - 09/17/03 02:35 PM Copyrights and gifts
Uncle Dave Offline
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If I assemble a compilation CD from pieces that I extract from other store-bought CDs and plan to give it away as gifts (say, at a wedding) does this require the same mechanical liscence as CDs for sale would? I have 2 clients that want to do this, and I want to be correct with my info.

EG:
This guy has a great collection that his clients all love, so he wants to give a sampler out as gifts. Does he have to liscence the sampler, since he owns all the original CDs and he is not making money with the deal?

Thanx.
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#178420 - 09/17/03 02:42 PM Re: Copyrights and gifts
freddynl Offline
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Come on Dave, you know this is a clear violation of copyright ....

Kazaa is free but look at what the RIAA is doing!

They sue 12 year old schoolgirls... for mp3's
which is not cd quality!

Why do I have the feeling that your post is a challenge to get a new debate going...
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#178421 - 09/17/03 06:25 PM Re: Copyrights and gifts
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Forgettaboutit! (I learned that from Donny.)

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#178422 - 09/17/03 07:15 PM Re: Copyrights and gifts
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Gary.....I'm so proud of you............... your learning BROOKLYNESE!!!!!

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#178423 - 09/17/03 07:32 PM Re: Copyrights and gifts
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Copyright laws define it as "deriving benefit from", not whether or not you make money. This covers demo tapes by bands/music acts etc. too - so if you produce a demo CD of copyrighted music other than your own and give them away, you pay the same as if you sold them.

BTW: I recently learned that you can only copyright arrangements if you are the original author of the song you arrange. So I cannot copyright my unique arrangements of pop & jazz standards although I can copyright the "sound recording" of them. I learned from an experienced friend that professional arrangers get around this by copyrighting their arrangements in France, which does recognize arrangements separate from authorship. The French copyright is then recognized in the US by international intellectual property agreements.
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#178424 - 09/17/03 09:46 PM Re: Copyrights and gifts
Uncle Dave Offline
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OK then...how about the 500 copy minimum? Is there a way to get around that since I'm only making 250? Seems cheap enough for a mechanical liscence (.08 per song) IF you were selling a thousand or more but to shell out $400 bucks semms excessive to me. I'm waiting to hear from Harry Fox about the exact details.
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#178425 - 09/18/03 06:42 AM Re: Copyrights and gifts
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There is no way around the 500 copy minimum license - and it must be paid prior to making the albums (CD, etc.). Check the FAQ at:
http://www.harryfox.com/

The up-front costs to make an album of copyrighted material is indeed a little intimidating, however the per-CD-cost once you've finished is really quite low.
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#178426 - 09/18/03 07:32 AM Re: Copyrights and gifts
Dnj Offline
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Dave.....will you be making a CD of your own soon also?

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#178427 - 09/18/03 08:24 AM Re: Copyrights and gifts
Uncle Dave Offline
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Naw..... I don't have time to fuss about myself ! I have to feed these kids and get my arse to work each day. Recording is a luxury !
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#178428 - 09/18/03 10:29 AM Re: Copyrights and gifts
tony mads usa Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
Forgettaboutit! (I learned that from Donny.)

Gary


Gary.....I'm so proud of you............... your learning BROOKLYNESE!!!!!

.... in Brooklyn that would be "fuggedabowdit"
. you can take the man out of NY, but you can't take NY out of the man ... 19 years in Rhode Island and STILL a NUU YAWKA ...
t.
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