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#176922 - 03/21/02 10:59 AM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Better late than never.

We have fixed the delays you used to experience when transiting from FILLx to ARRy in REL 3.0a which can now be downloaded from our website.

Thanks.

AJ
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#176923 - 03/21/02 01:15 PM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
Henry01 Offline
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Registered: 03/06/01
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That's great AJ, I'll test it out later...

Henry

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#176924 - 03/21/02 10:26 PM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
Mosiqaar Offline
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Registered: 12/01/01
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Hi AJ,

You mentioned that this delay occurs in both SD and X series. I may have experienced such a delay a couple of times, but I blamed it on my ear rather than the keyboard because I never thought about all the stuff you mentioned above. After all maybe it is the keyboard? At any rate you mentioned that it is fixed for 3.0 OS of the SD1, is it fixed for the X1 or about to be?

Thanks
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#176925 - 03/21/02 10:41 PM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Better late than never.

We have fixed the delays you used to experience when transiting from FILLx to ARRy in REL 3.0a which can now be downloaded from our website.

Thanks.

AJ


Hi AJ.
Did you Ketron guys fix this problem with regard
to Luka's post here?
If so, I'm really impressed, again!

Technics, do you see this !!

GJ
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#176926 - 03/22/02 07:39 AM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
George Kaye Offline
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Samer,
I just re-read AJ's post from last year when this issue began and let me explain what I know in my non-player way of saying things(I tend to not understand really technical words and examples when discribing digital things).
If you have a sample within the style (Solton calls this a "groove") you can have a problem with "delays" or "hic-cups" because of start and end points of the loop not being exactly perfect. I remember in my days of selling Roland Samplers many years ago, the hardest thing to do was to loop the sample. If you did it manually it was very difficult and if you let the sampler do it automatically it was almost always bad!
I believe that when you think you are hearing a glitch when starting or ending a fill, it is because of the start and end point leading into the next variation being off just this little bit because it is not a quantized drum style recorded via midi but rather a sampled loop.
I would think that if AJ fixed this in version 3.0, he must have gone into the looped samples and re-truncated them to give them smoother loop points. Is this true AJ? Please explain if I'm right or wrong here. You would be able to explain this much better than I can.
George Kaye
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#176927 - 03/22/02 08:03 AM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
Ketron_AJ Offline
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George,
You 'stole' my words. Well explained for I couldn't put this any better.

AJ
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#176928 - 03/22/02 08:16 AM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
George Kaye Offline
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Thanks AJ,
I wasn't sure if it was as simple as I explained it or if it was much deeper.
Regards,
George
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#176929 - 03/22/02 08:50 AM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
George Pchakjian Offline
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Registered: 03/13/01
Posts: 373
Loc: Irvine Ca, USA
Hi AJ, George K,

My question would be, Is it fixed on the x1 or just the SD1,, And if it is fixed on the X1,which O.S. correctsd this problem???

Thanks.

GP.
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#176930 - 03/22/02 10:43 AM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
Ketron_AJ Offline
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George Pchakjian:

We will probably incoorporate this 'fix' for the X-series in the next OS release.

AJ
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#176931 - 03/22/02 01:19 PM Re: Would be glad to hear Dan0 and G.Kaye's opinions SD1 FILL to ARRANGE delays !
George Pchakjian Offline
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Registered: 03/13/01
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AJ, Thank you for clearifing the issue, hopefully you are working on the next O.S. for the X1 which will address all the issues that concerns this forum and the rest of the world
Keep up the good work buddy.

GP.
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