Nice to see Roland bringing back the series that made them famous...the E series. I hope this series is going to be better than the em exr va etc. I hope their new flagship the e80 sounds fantastic with none of the g70s sound problems. I wonder how many mb of sound the e80 has. I have played the tyros 2 and think its fantastic. Lets hope the e80 can stand up against tyros2.

I hope the E80 can hold it's own with the likes of the Tyros 2, I will part ex my Ketron SD1 for one then.

It's primarily an expanded G70, more effects, a few more drumkits and two SRX slots, but basically, if you didn't like the G70 (your loss, as far as I'm concerned!) this is probably not going to change your mind............

Yes, but the E-80 sounds good "out of the box", the G-70 don´t.

All this subjective talk about a keyboard that NO-ONE has seen in the flesh and/or personally played yet....

June we will know.

If you don´t know, the E-80 was published at the Frankfurt Music Messe, and a lot of people have played or heard it. So this is not subjective talk.

Regards
Niels

I think its not fair to think that those unhappy with the g70 should not consider the new e80. Remember this is NOT to the G70 as the EM2000 was to the G70. This 61 key keyboard will be more expensive than the 76 key G70. And theres quiet a bit of new stuff. Will it sound better than the g70 out of the box? I think so. And theyve put in new sounds and drum kits. I think a small drawback is that this is the heaviest roland arranger. But heavy weights deliver a knockout punch

I think the E80 is exactly the same ...as the EM2000 was to the G1000, and the VA7 was to the VA76...
How do you figure it to be a different situation?
Naturally one model can be refined...If you can recall the VA7 version 2 was improved first over the VA76.....before the VA76 was upgraded..
The G70 can also be upgraded to the specs of the E80[software]..

I just hope we can try these new models in our local stores!!!

I am sorry, but this is not correct! Most improvements in the E80 are hardware specific (redesign of the panel, 2 x SRX slots, Built-in speakers, additional DSP's etc.). Even the new sounds will never be upgradable - you would need the E80 chip to have the new E80 sounds, so this is unfortunately not an option for the G70 users!... Therefore, "it is NOT possible to upgrade the G-70 to gain these improvements!" Only a few minor improvements like import of .bmp files are potential upgrade candidates. But let's face it: it is highly unlikely that Roland will ever release a G70 V3. The G70 is considered a finished product and Roland will of course spend their R&D money elsewhere - hopefully on the next generation of arranger machines for the benefit of us all

In addition to what I wrote above, this statement is not correct either - sorry

BTW - in this forum board you find a lot of great input from users, who recommend new functionality for the next generation of Roland arrangers. If you have any additional input, please come forward with it! All input will automatically be forwarded to Roland's R&D dep.

yours sincerely
Søren Weiss
Administrator of " Roland G-70 User Club Denmark "


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weissefar you put But let's face it, it is highly unlikely that Roland will ever release a G70 V3. The G70 is considered a finished product and Roland will of course spend their R&D money elsewhere - hopefully on the next generation of arranger machines for the benefit of us all.

I'm glad I'm not a G70 user reading this. So it's the end of updates for them and a costly part exchange or sell the G70 time if they want newer technology in the E80.
I doubt anyone would want to upgrade from a 76 note to a 61 note, then again.......?
It only seems a few minutes ago since the G70 came out and now Roland seem to be cashing in again, crikey

Well, It's all about expectations, right?

Did you expect - before buying the G70 - that the instrument would be updated and upgraded in the years to come? If you did - why on earth did you expect that?!? Who promised you that? If someone mislead you to think that buying a G70 meant free updates/upgraded in the years to come, then somebody might call you a bit naive. Fact is that you might be disappointed facing the fact that (maybe) there will not come anymore upgrades... (please - don't forget to inform us, who told you about this Mecca of upgrades!)

What I don't understand is, why anyone would have such expectations in the first place? Personally I regarded the G70 a finished product since day 1. I did that, because I wasn't promised anything else. Furthermore I knew all specs. and features before buying it, so I knew 100%, what I was payinf for. Not at any time did Roland promise any upgrades! However, even though Roland did not promise anything, they did in fact release a new OS2 in 2005. This upgrade gave the instrument a range of of new features and functions. This upgrade was even given away for free!

Furthermore, Roland has released a number of bugfixes (1.07, 1.1, 2.0, 2.01) - and soon a 2.02 will follow. Well, of course these bugfixes are the least one can do, when making bugs but most people tend to forget that these minor relases also contained additional new features - some of them in fact requested by the members in Roland G-70 User Club Denmark via a dedicated forum on the user club website - thank you Roland for that!

Summa summarum: Roland has in fact given the users SEVERAL new features in the G-70 - everything for free. And BTW - we have also received numerous new styles mastered especially for the G70. Not to forget the SR-G01 expansion board including new sounds, loops, drums, styles, user programs etc.

And local Roland JV's has entered into cooperation with companies like Midispot and TMF online to make software especially for the G70 - another a great initiative from Roland.

You see, with few exceptions I have had them all ... since the E-20 in the 80's... and you know what? With the G70 it is the first time that Roland has released so much new stuff so fast for one arranger keyboard! So.... my point is that I don't share the negative attitude - NOT AT ALL

... I almost forgot: A new Database manager application will be released soon... just in case you didn't knew that...


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