|
|
|
|
|
|
#166396 - 06/16/05 09:09 AM
G70 or PA1x
|
Junior Member
Registered: 06/14/05
Posts: 30
Loc: Chocowinity, NC
|
Time for me to upgrade and looking at both the Roland G70 and Korg PA1x. I currently have Roland Discover5 with Roland VK8M organ module but this setup lacks music styles. I play along with a sax so I have to provide all the background music as well as vocals. What's important to me is midi file modification and playback, clean good quality musics styles, excellent B3 organ, vocal harmony, good quality brass,piano and strings, basic recording, and quality workmanship - can't afford something that is not reliable. Suggestions and advice welcome, especially someone that may have already gone down this road. Also, let me know if I should include another keyboard. I'm in no rush and may wait until after the Summer NAMM to see what comes out of that show.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#166399 - 07/27/05 02:40 PM
Re: G70 or PA1x
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Originally posted by billh: let me know if I should include another keyboard. I'm in no rush and may wait until after the Summer NAMM to see what comes out of that show. Hi Bill, First let me say that I work for Generalmusic USA. Both instruments you are looking at are quite good. But since you ask for suggestions of other brands, I would like to invite you to take a look at the GEM Genesys Pro. It is a similar instrument to the other two, but does have some unique features that may be of interest. If you get a spare moment, please visit our website and view the online video demos of the Genesys to get a feel for what this instrument has to offer. By the way, I shot this video using the Genesys Ensemble designed for home use, but the portable version has the exact same features as the Ensemble. Click HERE to go directly to the Genesys Pro area. The video demo is available in one long (45 minute) streaming video in low and high resolution or below those links the video is broken down in sections so you can focus on the features that interest you without having to watch the entire video in one sitting. If you have any questions about the Genesys Pro or any of our products, please feel free to contact me here or by dropping me an e-mail (in my profile) or by visiting the GEM Community forums (link below). Best Regards and happy hunting! Dave ------------------ Wm. David McMahan Nat'l Product and Support Manager Generalmusic USA GEM Community Forums ------------------ Wm. David McMahan Nat'l Product and Support Manager Generalmusic USA GEM Community Forums [This message has been edited by WDMcM (edited 07-27-2005).]
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#166400 - 07/27/05 06:12 PM
Re: G70 or PA1x
|
Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
|
Hi Dave. I believe the GenesysPro has been out for quite some time now. I remember attending the GenesysPro demo put on by Chris Anthony at Winter Namm back in January 2002. Back then, I was quite impressed with it's rich array of features, keyboard feel, and very capable sounds & styles.
Interestingly enough though, when I finally thought I had a chance to audition & play one first hand, in Sept 2003, Paul Davis, GEM sales manager, demoed the Genesys Pro demo for a group of Synthzone members in Santa Barbara, CA, but the GenesysPro unit's OS kept crashing. Paul was also scheduled to demo the unit here in San Francisco, CA , but because of the OS problems he experienced with his demo unit in Santa Barbara, had to scrub the SF demo. Paul promised me he would return to the SF Bay Area & demo the GenesysPro once things got resolved, but I never heard back from him. I can only hope those Genesys Pro OS stability/reliability problems have now been fully resolved and that Paul, or someone else from GEM, might be finally able to return to the SF Bay Area to demo the GEM Genesys Pro here.
Dave: Btw, have there been any new GenesysPro features added, or significant enhancements/improvements since its initial release back in 2001?
Thanks. - Scott
[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 07-27-2005).]
_________________________
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#166401 - 07/27/05 06:56 PM
Re: G70 or PA1x
|
Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14202
Loc: NW Florida
|
First of all, let's take a look at the street price of the GEM - Yikes! Nearly $2000 MORE than street price on a G70!
Now LISTEN to the demos....... subjective, I know, but the GEM sounds wooly and reverb-y, Roland's demos for the G70, punchy and clean (if still a bit reverb-y for me!)
So what do you get for an additional $2k? Mostly the ability to record audio (at up to 16bit/44k, which is hardly pro, now) and playback audio. Not enough, I fear. The PA1Xpro will do audio at much less than the GEM.
Anyway, to return to your original question, I honestly think that if you have had Roland Discover and are used to Roland's way of working, go with the G70 - I love mine (had a G1000 prior) and the Korg might be your cuppa tea if you REALLY need sampling and audio playback, but to my ears, the Roland's styles are more natural, and the ease of modifying them is outstanding! And the Korg will take a LOT more work to make GS SMF's sound good!
BTW - Summer NAMM seems a total yawner - nothing of much interest to us here.
_________________________
An arranger is just a tool. What matters is what you build with it..!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#166402 - 07/27/05 07:42 PM
Re: G70 or PA1x
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Originally posted by Diki: First of all, let's take a look at the street price of the GEM - Yikes! Nearly $2000 MORE than street price on a G70! Actually if you shop around you will find the prices to be close. Now LISTEN to the demos....... subjective, I know, but the GEM sounds wooly and reverb-y, Roland's demos for the G70, punchy and clean (if still a bit reverb-y for me!) As you said, that is subjective. Not everyone likes the same sound. But keep in mind that the sound is adjustable on each instrument. So what do you get for an additional $2k? Mostly the ability to record audio (at up to 16bit/44k, which is hardly pro, now) and playback audio. Not enough, I fear. The PA1Xpro will do audio at much less than the GEM. Not exactly. You also get a very usable interface and much more flexibility than many of the other instruments. And the CD drive is not just for burning audio CD’s, it can also be used for mass storage of SMF’s, MP3’s, User Set-ups, etc. just like the internal hard drive. Anyway, to return to your original question, Bill did ask for other suggestions, so I don't really feel I was out of line by offering one. Sorry if I jumped in where I didn't belong. Dave
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|