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#156421 - 10/09/07 11:08 AM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Originally posted by zuki: Your PA800?
1. Is it as easy to navigate as the PSR?First off its not an equal comparison to a mid range PSR or S series unit..... TYROS 2 would be an equal comparison Zuki, now lets move on...IMO its easier because besides the Performance setups locations you also have the the "SONGBOOK" feature retains ALL performance parameters & setup info unlike the Yamaha MFD which doesn't save all eg: Transpose, STYLES,SMF, Mp3, KAR, this powerful feature alone is great for live performance...just create any amount of custom set lists, song lists or just mix em up with different categories, the Navagation BUTTON position layout is well thought out and for me easy to access in REAL TIME using LH/RH/ or the EC5 pedal....scroll thru the list while your playing , hit select and your there instantly I love it its something I always wished Yamaha had. Also You can link lyrics text files to each MP3 and you can play the keyboard along with while playing an MP3. You can manage your MP3's as songbook custom lists and Record MP3's through mic. 2. Can you hit registrations on the fly to do medleys?As stated above KORG doesn't call them registrations but "PERFORMANCES"....and YES from the SONGBOOK as I stated above while your playing just Scroll, select and the next song will start. 3. Do the styles cover enough ground, i.e. big band, ballads, etc.This is the first time I have used a KB that I can truly say that I only have have on-board about 8 Converted styles vs 25/30 on my Yamaha's...for my needs Korg did it right there is a full array of styles for every genre. Some had to be adjusted but that very easy also, editing is a breeze. 4. Is the harmonizer user friendly, or do you have to tweak it? I vision using the harmonizer button to do 2 or 3 part without any adjustments?Zuki the TC Helicon is the BEST Vocalizer I have ever used on a arranger KB hands down, tracking is superb, no dropouts , crystal clear, dave & i have discussed the setting and honestly there is not much you have to do although you can go crazy with settings if you want to, but not needed for normal singing harmonies just choose 1,2,3 above or below etc etc ...use the EC5 pedal or the on-board Harmony button to switch between on/off. 5. Do the fills have a lot of glitches that make it seem unnatural?I have no problems with fills because I use them properly while playing another nice feature is that if you push once you get the fill, you push twice and the lite will flash and the Fill Repeats until you hit it again.....the new OS 1.51 has addressed many of the problems and of course there is SO much much more to this wonderful instrument to consider, Im still learning every day with mine Im so glad I bought one......I suggest you read the online manual and watch the demo videos also. http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa800_demo.html?en Thanks, zuki[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-09-2007).]
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#156423 - 10/10/07 02:34 PM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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PA800 SongBook This exciting feature was developed to make your life easier while playing live. The SongBook is a Musical Database, completely user programmable, containing all the settings needed to play a particular song. You have only to search the title of the song you would like to play, select it and hit "Play". The SongBook can use styles, mid files or MP3 (with "Dual MP3 Expansion Board" option installed) and immediately recall settings such as Song Title, Genre, Artist, Tempo, Volumes, Sounds, Muted Tracks, FX settings, Easy Edit, 4 STS*, Master Transpose and more. Everything you need to play your song back perfectly is in the SongBook, a useful musical feature that is unique to Korg - the only Arranger keyboards available with all these sophisticated controls.
(*STS - Single Touch Settings is a memory that recalls sounds for all the real time tracks (upper1, 2, 3 & lower).)
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#156424 - 10/10/07 03:05 PM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Sorry to barge in but, I think the PA800 is by far the best KB I have ever had. I was dreading the task of converting many KN7000 styles to Korg, but after auditioning the internal styles, I am going to forget it.
Bernie
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#156426 - 10/10/07 04:02 PM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 09/21/02
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If it's good enough for you, it most certainly is for me.
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#156427 - 10/10/07 06:08 PM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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1. Is it as easy to navigate as the PSR? ** Not quite as simple, but once you know the "korg way" it's very logical ! Some things are better, but I miss the EASE of the mixer/effects section in the Yamaha design. 2. Can you hit registrations on the fly to do meldeys? ** Oh yes ! More versatility than PSR in that regard. Many ways to fly through changes. 3. Do the styles cover enough ground, i.e. big band, ballads, etc. ** Styles are a bit busier than I'd prefer, but 100% editable. VERY usable. There is something for almost everything I play. 4. Is the harmonizer user friendly, or do you have to tweek it? I vision using the harmonizer button to do 2 or 3 part without any adjustments? ** I use the default preset with only volume and blend adjustments. BEST I ever had built in ! Might just be as good as ANY I've had ! 5. Do the fills have a lot of glitches that make it seem unnatural?
** They are not unnatural...they are busy. Flashy. (too flashy, sometimes) They tend to sound like a different band than the style just had playing. The good thing about Korg is that many of the patterns are 8 measures long with simple variations built in at the end of the phrase, so the need to fill is not as great.
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#156434 - 10/11/07 05:10 AM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Nick, they retail for $4995
You should probably be able to pick one up for 20% to 25% discount.
I actually asked the local dealer if he could match the price I normally got via my ex boss in Sydney. (Didn't want to make a 2 hr trip to Sydney if possible.) The guy gulped, asked me if I normally got trade price, explained who I worked for & what I did, & promptly offered me a similar casual job , plus the discount. Boy , if only I didn't live an hour away from his store, ( instead of the 5 mins I used to travel in Sydney) I would have jumped at the opportunity just to get involved again..
Meanwhile I offered to take phone calls if he had any interested PA800 customers. I used to luv talking to people.
I've got a manual to study. There's quite a number of new functions my old i2 definately didn't have.
It's really been rather a bizzare day.
I'm hoping I've finally found a replacement for the gap left by Technics for me. Time will tell. Neither my SD1+ or PSR1500 have quite filled the gap( I like both of them & will be keeping them)if Korg doesn't turn out to be my new ideal brand of keyboard, I've really only got Roland left to try. Haven't had one since I sold my VA7.
Might have a hell of a time convincing hubby I need a 4th, though . haa haa.
Have you actually checked PA800 prices??
best wishes Rikki
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nick G: [B]
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#156436 - 10/11/07 02:17 PM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Chico, that's incedible. We're the oppsite. Here the T2 & E80 retail for approx $6,000 AUD, the Korg PA800 just under $5,000. I doubt anyone pays the full price though. I remember when the PA1X Pro first came out, it was round $9,000 AUD. At that time though, I think the reason was the Aussie dollar was down in value against the USA Dollar.. To me the PA800 seemed good value for a top end arranger. best wishes Rikki Originally posted by ChicoBrasil: I'd try a PA800 but here in Brasil, Korg top models are very expensive. A PA800 costs 30% more than a Tyros2 or E80. It's absurd. Chico
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#156438 - 10/11/07 04:56 PM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
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Hi Guy`s, I have a question ! Now before you think I`m crazy or living under a rock , let me say this first: I own a Mac , I don`t own an iPod and I have never used iTunes. Now , we got that out of the way , so here goes: I popped a CD into my mac and instead of playing it , I opened it and found all the songs to be .aiff files. So i crossed referenced the info I have on the Pa800 and it will read .aiff files with the EXBP - MP3 Expansion Board. OK , now we are cook`n , I think , so if I had a Pa800 with the MP3 board i could rip songs off a CD and onto a USB flash drive and load hem onto the Pa800. Now , other than listen to them , what can you do with them ? Can you play along , change different tracks ? In other words , what the heck does that board do !!! Many thanks , and sorry for being a little behind the times ! I`m just not as young as I was yesterday !! Gary
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#156447 - 10/12/07 08:53 AM
Re: Donny & UD - how do you like...
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
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Donny, thanks for the link. WOW , ! That was something , a keyboard strumming guitar sound. I can`t speak German , but I got the basic idea , ( me thinks ). So you can program the Pa800 to strum cords , i got that !! Will it also be able to finger style play as well ? That would really be cool. Man , just think of doing "Stairway To Heaven" , the right way on an A/KB ! I know all the guitar parts , if that KB could be programed to play them , that could mean trouble for my bank account !! LOL Thanks again for the link and your help. I hate to ask so many questions , but I do appreciate , all the help you guy`s and gal`s provide !! Later, Gary
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