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#152449 - 09/24/07 03:31 PM Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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I bought a 8g thumb drive .....its works fine on my PC but not on the Pa800.....I loaded 1600 mp3's into 3 folders via my PC to play in the PA800....when I tried to open them in the KB song mode I see the 3 folders but when trying to open them It only read 44 songs in one folder which all play fine the two others folders were empty all songs were gone......when I put the thumb drive back in the PC all songs were erased except 44 in folder #1!!! I tried this 4 different times Argggggg!


something is not right.....any ideas?

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#152450 - 09/24/07 05:35 PM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
mdorantes Offline
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Registered: 11/25/00
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Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
Hello,

I would make a few Folders perhaps categorizing the MP3s, and so on, some keyboards like the PA800, PSR S900 have limitations in HOW many items/files are inside a SINGLE folder, so, my sugestion is to make several folders, I would consider to include some 200s files per folder, it will help you to find files eaiser by category, like: instrumental, dance, jazz, latin, medleys, Rock&Roll, Country, etc. Instead of scrooling to a single list of 1600 files.
I hope it helps you. ;o)
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#152451 - 09/24/07 06:35 PM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
miden Offline
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donny its because of the old windows limitation of the number of files that can be written in the root directory of the drive ..you will need to create folders to store that many, no limits on how many can go in a folder so if you just wanted one, say, donny's songs, ALL of your mp3's would go there..
cheers
PS on the PA800 system btw, XP does not seem to have issues that way...from memory,i think korg utilise DOS but in their own way, vis-a-vis you can now load long file names..couldnt on the earlier op systems for the pa1xpro

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#152452 - 09/24/07 08:03 PM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Quote:
Originally posted by mdorantes:
Hello,

I would make a few Folders perhaps categorizing the MP3s, and so on, some keyboards like the PA800, PSR S900 have limitations in HOW many items/files are inside a SINGLE folder, so, my suggestion is to make several folders, I would consider to include some 200s files per folder, it will help you to find files eaiser by category, like: instrumental, dance, jazz, latin, medleys, Rock&Roll, Country, etc. Instead of scrooling to a single list of 1600 files.
I hope it helps you. ;o)


Manuel what are you using on your Pa800 HD? thumb?

I tried the folder thing separating songs with 99 in each and it will only read the first two.....when I try to open the others they are EMPY....maybe the 8g thumb drive is bad for the korg



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#152453 - 09/24/07 08:06 PM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by miden:
donny its because of the old windows limitation of the number of files that can be written in the root directory of the drive ..you will need to create folders to store that many, no limits on how many can go in a folder so if you just wanted one, say, donny's songs, ALL of your mp3's would go there..
cheers
PS on the PA800 system btw, XP does not seem to have issues that way...from memory,i think korg utilise DOS but in their own way, vis-a-vis you can now load long file names..couldnt on the earlier op systems for the pa1xpro

[This message has been edited by miden (edited 09-24-2007).]



I created folders on my pc not on the keyboard & it doesn't work.....do I need to create folders on the KB first?

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#152454 - 09/24/07 10:57 PM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
miden Offline
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donny, when i had my pa800 i used a 1 gig thumb drive with all my midi files (about 500 odd) in one folder on the actual thumbdrive and the pa loaded from it with no dramas..so going on my experience the pa800 should just recognise your thumb drive as just another data device....its an odd problem sure enough...the old korg op systems allowed you to format floppies and the hard drive from the keyboard, does the PA800 have this in its disk utility menu? if so try foramtting the thumb drive on the PA and then re-copy all the folders across and see what happens..pita i know, but it might be the only way???
dennis

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#152455 - 09/25/07 12:17 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
mdorantes Offline
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Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 1211
Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
Hi everyone:

I use a Thumb drive in my PA800, I have not installed the HD, I do not think I would have use for, since I use also the T2 and that one has the HD and 1 Gig on Memory.
I think that the PA 800 problem you have, maybe due to the size of the file too, the number of file per Folder and also what size your MP3s are....I would need to make some experiments.
By the way, I supposed that you have installed the MP3 board...I have not, YET.....how much did you pay for?....and, did you install it yourself?.
Keeping in touch.
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#152456 - 09/25/07 01:27 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
mdorantes Offline
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Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 1211
Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
Hi everyone:

I use a Thumb drive in my PA800, I have not installed the HD, I do not think I would have use for, since I use also the T2 and that one has the HD and 1 Gig on Memory.
I think that the PA 800 problem you have, maybe due to the size of the file too, the number of file per Folder and also what size your MP3s are....I would need to make some experiments.
By the way, I supposed that you have installed the MP3 board...I have not, YET.....how much did you pay for?....and, did you install it yourself?.
Keeping in touch.
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#152457 - 09/25/07 02:36 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by mdorantes:

Hi everyone:

I use a Thumb drive in my PA800, I have not installed the HD, I do not think I would have use for, since I use also the T2 and that one has the HD and 1 Gig on Memory.
I think that the PA 800 problem you have, maybe due to the size of the file too, the number of file per Folder and also what size your MP3s are....I would need to make some experiments.
By the way, I supposed that you have installed the MP3 board...I have not, YET.....how much did you pay for?....and, did you install it yourself?.
Keeping in touch.


Manuel,

Hi,

Yes I have the EXBP DUAL Mp3 card installed on my PA800 its WONDERFUL !!!
It cost approx $225.00 - $250.00.....I installed it myself in about 5 minutes, its simple remove two screws from the rear plate panel...attach two wires to the card, & replace the two screws again...that's it.
It reads & plays MP3, SMF, KAR, TEXT etc TWO AT A TIME so you can segway between both media formats using the slider ....
and you can RECORD also. I Highly recommend getting one asap.

Its possible there is a limitation to the thumb drive size I have no problems with my smaller ones 512, 1G etc ....

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#152458 - 09/25/07 02:39 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by miden:
donny, when i had my pa800 i used a 1 gig thumb drive with all my midi files (about 500 odd) in one folder on the actual thumbdrive and the pa loaded from it with no dramas..so going on my experience the pa800 should just recognise your thumb drive as just another data device....its an odd problem sure enough...the old korg op systems allowed you to format floppies and the hard drive from the keyboard, does the PA800 have this in its disk utility menu? if so try foramtting the thumb drive on the PA and then re-copy all the folders across and see what happens..pita i know, but it might be the only way???
dennis


Dennis the pA800 has no problem recognizing the thumb drive....I would assume its a folder & file size problem.

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#152459 - 09/25/07 04:46 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
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Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
This isn't one of those "format the device using the keyboard and it works ok" scenarios is it - not that I personally know a thing about the 800!
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#152460 - 09/25/07 05:24 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Maybe this is related, then again maybe not.....
I'm not certain as to why, but on my Tyros 2, neither of my Cruzer SanDisks worked properly. The board recognizes them but not the data on them. All of my other thumb drives work fine with it. I also have a small FM radio transmitter that plugs into my cigarette lighter jack in the car. It reads MP3 and Wma files from a thumb drive and rebroadcasts them to my car radio ( yes..it's legal folks .. it's very low power - part 15 operation ). Although the "Cruzer" drives work in it, I notice that from time to time they freeze up in it. No such issues with any of my other T drives.

I don't have an abundance of technological knowledge in this area, but based on what I've read on the net to me it appears that the problem lies with the Smart Disk ( U3 ) software. The U3 drives themselves have two partitions, and you cannot manually remove the U3 software. I recently found out that there is a tool for Windows that can be downloaded which allows the user to remove the U3 software from the drive. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm guessing that should cure the problem.

Regards,

AJ
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#152461 - 09/25/07 05:32 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by MacAllcock:
This isn't one of those "format the device using the keyboard and it works ok" scenarios is it - not that I personally know a thing about the 800!


I thought of that also.....I FORMATTED the thumb drive in the KB......but when I loaded teh mp3's/smf on my pc it still wont recognize all the songs except 44 mp3s, & 200 smf in two out of 3 folders. could be the Pc is defaulting the drive .

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#152462 - 09/26/07 08:40 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 1221
Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
Could the 800 be objecting to some of the non-alpha characters that are valid for a PC file "long file name" like apostrophe's or even spaces (although I'd find that hard to believe)
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#152463 - 09/26/07 08:50 AM Re: Help, THUMB DRIVE PROBLEMS....Hmmmmmmm?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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I have talked to other performers who use 8g flash drives on the pa800 with no problems....

Its just a matter non compatibility with the brand I have ...I have since ordered the proper one.

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