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#15094 - 03/02/04 12:11 PM OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Registered: 03/08/01
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Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Hello all,

I found out why I couldn't download the latest OS for the WK8SE from GEM's web site. A security patch for IE that came out in early February removes the feature or ability that allows a username and password to be embedded into the URL.

Here's what I mean, if we were to go to GEM's (Italy) website, navigate to the Download section of the WK8SE and click on the link to the new OS, we would get the following URL:

http://uuser003:gem@storage.generalmusic.mysam.it/Public/Downloads/GEM/OS/wk8se/wk8se_280600.zip

Notice the beginning of the URL, the "uuser003:gem" part. This is the username and password that is used to allow access to the GEM storage server holding the wk8se.zip file. Before MS security patch 832894, this syntax would have worked. But for a lot of us Windows users that are set for automatic updates, this feature was removed. Sure, you can strip out the username and password and submit it manually to the following URL:

http://storage.generalmusic.mysam.it/Public/Downloads/GEM/OS/wk8se/wk8se_280600.zip

Username = uuser003
Password = gem

But how many folks are going to know to do that?

Another way would be to do what the following MS Knowledgebase article suggests:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=834489

I've already informed the web programmers here at work that they might be re-coding some web pages if they were using this style of embedding.

Bottom line is, I got the new OS for the WK8SE and I will load that into my WK8 soon (with fingers crossed).

mike

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#15095 - 03/02/04 05:51 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
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msutliff,

May I ask a question which has nothing to do with this thread? For a long time, I have been seeing posts using "OT" and I always wondered what it means.

Sorry and Thanks, please continue the original post.

By the way, I do not like the way they programmed the access. This is not safe at all in my humble opinion.

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#15096 - 03/02/04 06:29 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Posts: 640
Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by sk880user:
...I have been seeing posts using "OT" and I always wondered what it means.


Hey SK880user,

No problem...OT means Off Topic, at least that's what was explained to me. Kinda gives ya a heads-up as to the possible content. Funny, I always find myself going right after the OT subjects to give them a read. Just curious what other people have to say about anything, I guess.

Quote:

By the way, I do not like the way they programmed the access. This is not safe at all in my humble opinion.


Maybe, but this is a popular way for a web page to allow the end user (the public) access to files on a different computer. The server administrator of the different computer makes sure that login and password is only good for those files, nothing else.

mike

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#15097 - 03/02/04 06:55 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Registered: 03/08/01
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Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Hello all,

Ummm, I just tried to load the WK8SE OS into my WK8 Megastation and got the

INCORRECT OS...Please insert the proper disk

error message. The file on the floppy is called "Wk8_se.lz1", the file size is 1,376KB, and the Date Modified is 6/28/2000 at 11:57 AM.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

mike

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#15098 - 03/03/04 03:05 AM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
JoostMerema Offline
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rename the file to the filename the original WK8OS has...
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#15099 - 03/03/04 06:38 AM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Sounds good Joost, I'll try that tonight when I get home.

That's it? That would be great! I figured I'd be going into the guts of the file and editing there. For instance, here's a short cut&paste from the first line of the code:

$ˇ-lh5-~ dĽ5  WWK8_SE.BIN 8

I'd much rather just edit the filename then sift through all that.

I'll let ya know.....

mike

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#15100 - 03/03/04 12:47 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
tazar Offline
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Registered: 06/05/02
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Loc: san diego, CA, USA
all,
does this mean that I can use this OS for my
WK8 MegaStation. Are these two WK8 SE and WK8
Mega OS compatibles?

Tony
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#15101 - 03/03/04 05:02 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Registered: 03/08/01
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Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Hello all,

Nope, still didn't work. Now I get this error:

OS-FILE Name Error
Please Insert The Correct OS-Disk

I've got two OS's for the WK8, the floppy that came in the Owners Manual, "Wk6_8.lz4" and the update that came out 6-28-2000 and that file name is "Wk6_8.lz6". Neither rename worked.

Looks like I'm missing something here.

I was hoping that maybe Dave or Paul would have commented. They didn't and I wonder if that's a sign.(?)

mike

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#15102 - 03/04/04 05:27 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
kevind Offline
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Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 34
Loc: Manchester UK
are we talking about the new os for the wk8 le?,as the olny wk8se one I can see is dated 2000!

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#15103 - 03/04/04 06:01 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
WDMcM Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 817
Loc: Ohio, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by msutliff:
Hello all,

I was hoping that maybe Dave or Paul would have commented. They didn't and I wonder if that's a sign.(?)

mike


Mike,

Sorry that I did not jump in here sooner, but I am traveling and it is sometimes hard to get the time to visit the forums. I do try to answer inquires as fast as possible, those that come through the GEM support e-mail address as well as those on this and other forums.

I am not sure what you meant by your comment, but rest assured that Paul and I and everyone else at General Music are working very hard and things are just great here and getting better every day, so please let's stop these kind of destructive comments here and now. OK?

Anyone with an operational question on a GEM product is welcome to send an e-mail to support@generalmusicus.com. These messages are delivered directly to me and I will check these first if I am running short on time. If you have issues not relating to a normal product support inquiry, feel free to ask me and I will direct you to the proper contact.

As for the software upgrade issue, I will have to contact Italy and find out why you are having difficulties. I will post the results just as soon as I get them.

Best Regards,

Dave McMahan
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#15104 - 03/04/04 07:05 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Ohio, USA
One thing I neglected to point out in my last post is the fact that the WK-8 (megastation) and WK-8SE (special edition) use different operating systems. Trying to hack/install the wrong OS into your instrument can create unexpected results. We cannot provide support in these circumstances.

BTW, I provide support for the US market. If you have issues with a GEM product outside of the US, I suggest you contact the place of purchase for things like new OS versions etc. GEM USA does not have access to products/software that are not sold here in the US.

I will of course be happy to help and answer questions from anyone, anywhere, whenever I can.

Thanks,

Dave
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#15105 - 03/04/04 07:48 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by WDMcM:
I am not sure what you meant by your comment, but rest assured that Paul and I and everyone else at General Music are working very hard and things are just great here and getting better every day, so please let's stop these kind of destructive comments here and now. OK?


Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how easy it is to misinterpret written word.

Dave, I'm sorry if you thought something I said was destructive. Quite frankly, I'm pretty much blown away by that statement. But I'm not going to rant here. Instead, I'll explain what I meant by using the word "sign".

The "sign" I was referring to was....You weren't allowed to comment, to say something. This wasn't an authorized upgrade. If it was, GEM would have posted it on their site. How did I even hear about this upgrade...Through a post from another user.

Quote:
Originally posted by JoostMerema:
Today I succeeded in flashing the WK8 to a WK8SE... Now I compared the update files from WK8SE to WK8LE; but I can't find much different things. But there are some different things in it; maybe different perfomances and sounds.

Could Paul of Cris comment on this?


You know how many comments he got back from Paul or Chris...Zippo, nada! Did that bother me?...Not at all. It didn't sound like something a manufacturer was going to recommend but I was still intrigued. And so I asked, should I do this? No response.

A little later on it gets brought up again and this time you respond:

Quote:
Originally posted by WDMcM:
Finally, I see no reason to try and load the SE operating system into you WK-8. if I come up with a reason, I will let you know.
Dave


Great, that's all I wanted to hear. So I proceed to download the latest OS for the WK8SE from Italy. Doesn't work. I email tech support. They respond, it should work, just click on the link. I respond back, not working here. End of communication. I proceed to troubleshoot, solve, and state my findings at the beginning of this thread.

A new problem surfaces, a few attempts are made to rectify but to no avail. And all along nobody official is chiming in (no offense Joost). Again I think, that's okay, maybe they can't, maybe they don't want to be liable. Another interested party asks about the upgrade (tazar). I'm about to answer when my third attempt failed and so I posted my wish for you and/or Paul to say something, anything, but alas, maybe you can't.

(obviously I didn't wait long enough)

There. That's what I meant.

What did you think I meant?

Sincerely,
Mike Sutliff

[This message has been edited by msutliff (edited 03-04-2004).]

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#15106 - 03/04/04 07:52 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Oh yeah, and for the record, I'm okay with not going through with this upgrade. I don't need it, what I got is working fine.

I was just curious, that's all.

Good night all!

mike

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#15107 - 03/05/04 04:48 AM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
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Uh, well....It is a little dificult to type with my foot in my mouth.

Sorry Mike. I know better than to let my emotions take over. I feel like I should buy you a beer or something.

LOL,

Dave
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#15108 - 03/05/04 05:42 AM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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No problem Dave.

It's a new day and I'm feeling good. Well, except for the fact that I have to go shovel about 10 inches of freshly fallen snow (here in Minneapolis). I'm talkin' the real heavy stuff. Wet, sticky, can't use the snow-blower type snow.

That beer is soundin' real good. I'll take some 80 degree weather and some white sand to go with it, please!



mike

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#15109 - 03/05/04 06:32 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
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Hi Mike,

Don't have much white sand or any sand for that matter here is Cincinnati. But I would certainly take some of your snow. There is nothing like drinking a partially frozen beer that has been thawed out a bit on the manifold of the SkiDoo.

Forget the shovel, just get out the snowshoes.

Best Regards,

Dave
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#15110 - 03/05/04 07:09 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
msutliff Offline
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Hey Dave,

Ooo, you said Ski-Doo...Are you a sledder?

1995 Ski-Doo Mach 1. Owned it for 5 years, put about 3000 miles on 'er.

Best trip, rode from Bergland, Michigan (UP)(Lake Gogebic) all the way up to Copper Harbor in one day, in blizzard conditions.

I'm originally from Duluth, Minnesota. Can't count the number of miles we put on the North Shore Trail.

If you're not a sledder, then sorry for the gibberish.

And to bring this post back on topic....Uh....Uh....When is GEM going to come out with an arranger keyboard utilizing DRAKE-chip technology?

mike

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#15111 - 03/05/04 08:25 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
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Loc: Ohio, USA
Hi Mike,

My family has a cottage (fancy name for a cabin) on Lake Superior in the U.P. When everyone else is going south for the winter, we go north. My brother was up there last week and said there is over four feet of snow in the woods. It kills me that I haven't had time to get up there lately.

We actually have Artic Cats now but started with John Deere years ago. Doesn't it just make you happy to be alive when cutting a new trail though fresh powder. I feel bad for the people who say they hate the cold and snow because they will never get to experience how beautiful falling snow from a clear blue sky can be. OK, I'm getting sad thinking about it so I had better go do something constructive. Peace.

Ride on and ride safe!

Dave
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#15112 - 03/05/04 09:20 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
George Kaye Offline
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Hey Dave,
this is George Kaye from Kaye's Music Scene. Would you please ask Phil Houston to send me the documents he has for adjusting the ProMega3 and 2 keyboards. I talked to him earlier in the week but I don't have his email address.
Thanks,
George Kaye
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#15113 - 03/05/04 09:40 PM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
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George,

You have mail.
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#15114 - 03/06/04 05:20 AM Re: OT...Does apply to GEM though...
WDMcM Offline
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Hi George,

I will call Phil today although it looks like Paul may haved already sent these documents to you.

Dave
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