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#148103 - 07/18/06 04:26 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Hi scott

The test is played with styles made for the Tyros and for the G-70.

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Niels
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#148104 - 07/18/06 04:26 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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The biggest difference I hear this time is in EQ settings between the two boards. I'm assuming cut #1 is the T2 ? For hahas, I boosted the low end and lower midrange and cut the high end and hi midrange on the first part, and did the reverse for the second part, and they came up sounding a lot more alike.

As they were though originally, I preferred the first part better than the second. I would assume ( or hope ) that the master EQ settings are easily adjustable on the G70 ( as I'm quite sure they are on the T2 _). One of my chief complaints with the PA80 is a lack of a "Master" DSP engine.

AJ
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#148105 - 07/18/06 04:31 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Hi AJ

The first part in the test nr.2 is the G-70.

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Niels
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#148106 - 07/18/06 04:50 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Originally posted by nielshs:
The test is played with styles made for the Tyros and for the G-70.


So am I to assume that you recorded the song utilizing the Tyros2 STYLE on the Tyros2 midi sequencer, and the song utilizing the G70 STYLE on the G70's built in midi sequencer, then played the resultant midi file in each one of the keyboards?

Which STYLE & which keyboard (G70/Tyros2) were each of your two songs originally recorded on?

Thanks.

Scott
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#148107 - 07/18/06 04:56 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Hi Scott

The styles are from the danish company MidiSpot. The Tyros version is played in acc. mode with the style made for the Tyros and the G-70 played with the G-70 version of the style.

Niels
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#148108 - 07/18/06 05:07 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Niels: Thanks for your clarification. Btw, really look forward to another song contribution from you. I've always enjoyed your music & vocals, no matter WHICH keyboard (G70 or Tyros2) you choose to perform it on, and of which proves the point, that it's the 'artistry' of the musician, not which keyboard, which is paramount.

Scott

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#148109 - 07/18/06 05:10 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by nielshs:
Hi AJ

The first part in the test nr.2 is the G-70.

Regards
Niels


On demo 2 the first one G70 sounds much better to me especially the Drums...compared to the second T2 demo which sounded dead to me for some reason...
as stated I just go by my ears....I just want to know what everyone was talking about in earlier G70 reviews regarding saturated reverb in styles in V2? as etc....
I'm still gonna try a G70 & E-80 asap....
I wanna make Fran happy & maybe myself & who knows?



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#148110 - 07/18/06 05:11 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Cool, thanks for the comparison. I agree with others that they are "both" good. The Yamaha version is easy to pick out because of the drums

I agree that the Yamaha version is a bit more polished, but the G-70 version sounds more "live", and in your face.

It all falls downt to user preference though. Some like the feel of the CD perfection of the T2, and some like the more loose feel of the G-70. Me pesonally I liked the G-70's version better. I'll take a more live sound any day, but hey that's me.

Squeak

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#148111 - 07/18/06 06:20 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Thanks Niels

I'm happy yet disappointed all at the same time. I kinda want the T2 to win out because I've had several Yamaha arrangers before and I am very comfortable with their Operating systems and there is good user based support. I also like many of their lead instrument sounds.

OTOH, the G70 is beginning to pull at least even in the race ( for me guys.. ) because of the extra keys, the key feel, and the fact that I think both have excellent sounds, but I still hear those ever familiar Yamaha drum and bass sounds that I never really cared all that much for. It also doesn't hurt that my local store has a very good price on the G70.

I'm confident enough that both boards will sound very good, especially when compared to my PA80. Now it comes down to side by side play, and how these boards interact with me, the player. I also realize that I'm kinda different than some other members here, because one of my favorite things ( still )about the PA80 is the layout and interface, while the majority here seemed to strongly dislike it vs comparable Yamaha's in that regard.

Thanks much for the demos Niels

AJ
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#148112 - 07/18/06 06:45 PM Re: G-70 and Tyros2 comparison
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Originally posted by Bluezplayer:
I still hear those ever familiar Yamaha drum and bass sounds that I never really cared all that much for.


Not sure what Master EQ & compressor settings Neils used on his Tyros2, but I found setting this differently than the Yamaha factory default settings, plus increasing the drum & bass track volume & increasing reverb/chorus will dramatically enhance the dynamic realism & punch of Tyros2's sound further. - Scott
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