yes scott - it's definitely permanent -
check out the link from DNJ - some great info there, if you haven't already looked!

Jill

Re: Ink smear.
To make any item printed with an ink jet printer waterproof, simply lay it flat on a sheet of paper and give it a light spray of either clear spray lacquer or spray matte polyurethane. works like a charm. Just a light spray - don't need much. Works well on high definition color photo prints too.
Give it a try, you might like it.
Walt

[This message has been edited by Walt Meyer (edited 08-05-2005).]

I heard about the spray and thought... there is the solution but then others said no, it can gum up c.d. players. I dunno.


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Me Bill
Yamaha PSR2000

Smearing on Epson R-series isn't too bad if you let the CD dry well (at least an hour indoors with A/C or more if you can) before you handle it. Yes, it will smear if it gets wet, but not as bad as older ink-jets.

Lightscribe does not begin to compare for presentation - harder to read, no color, looonnngg burn times.

What we need is a commercial spray product designed specifically for this application - as long as it didn't gum up the CD player it'd get my dollar!

I've used matte spray lacquer on my paper CD labels for quite some time and have heard of no "gum up" problems.
Just a light dusting dries in a few minutes to a coating that can not be seen or felt. There would not be anything in a CD player that would soften or desolve the lacquer on the CD. I wouldn't be surprised if the paint that is used by the manufacturer on the direct print CD blanks is of a lacquer base.
The problems that I have had with paper labels (sprayed and not sprayed) is that some of the CD players in Chrysler product automobiles have such a small slot that the CD's jam and will not come out due to the added thickness of the paper label.
Just my thoughts,
Walt

Burn time on my HP is under 7 minutes..
Maybe , not pratical for printing a large number of copies..but I like the look..
Shop around I am sure you can find deals on blanks..
Scott ,the DVD burner is a HP DVD writer 640b..

I'm a little confused.
Does this mean that if I purchase the lightscribe hardware burner that I can actually burn data with it?

I presently have both a DVD burner and a CD burner on my PC. What would I do, replace one of these drives with a lightscribe burner? (I don't have enough slots for a third burner.)

If I replace the CD burner with the Lightscribe burner, can I use my present DVD burner to burn data, flip it over and use Lightscribe to print a label? Or must I use the lightscribe only to burn both data and labels.

Need a little more info from my friends

Thanks,
Larry

my hp burner does just what you are saying, rips the cd / or dvd, then flip it over for the "label" burn.

I believe i have the same model as fran.

Jill

I don't think you need anything other than the Lightscribe CDRW. It writes data, then you flip it over, it burns the label.

Fran, you said 7 minutes... is the regardless of how 'busy' the label is? All take 7 minutes or would it vary with density of the burn? Seven minutes, I could live with.

Just saw an external LightScribe burner for $170 (ouch!) at OfficeMax. I think you might find them online for less than $150. (External... internals are less.)


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Me Bill
Yamaha PSR2000

So lightscribe burns CD-R'S

What about DVD-R'S ?

larry