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#131047 - 08/24/06 02:01 PM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
keysvocalssax Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
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Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
Robert, I play in full or piano mode almost all the time. I'm not a trained pianist but a sax/vocalist who is self-taught on keys. I use the sax sparingly on gigs w/my akb, and never ever try to emulate a sax sound on kbd. But
you're right, oboe is cool, and I use a Korg or Technics
and find use for oboe, french horn, cello, bassoon, etc.

It would be nice to have a 76, but those unfortunately are either beginner kb's or weigh a ton, like g70, pa1xpro, SD1, but i don't have a problem voicing on the 61-maybe in part because I don't voice "correctly", or really spread out. Most of the time i just do the root position 7ths, mixed with "Bud Powell" style 2-finger 1/7, 1/5, 3/7, etc.

Most of what I do is unconscious and on top of all the other good reasons I have for not using full arrangements, I don't want to be concerned with screwing up the background because I voiced incorrectly. I am also singing
80% of the tunes so I want to keep the background light.

I'm not familiar with the product you are investigating..let
me know where to find it, and if you get one..
Miami Mo
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#131048 - 08/24/06 02:36 PM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
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Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 236
Loc: birmingham,england
robert dont let this unending quest for absolute accuracy in terms of the individual instrument voicings get in the way of making great music. I used to play guitar myself and could not tell that the voicing was incorrect on your piece and i believe that i am a fairly discerning amateur musician. sometimes we spend too much time analysing and agonising over a peice of music for very little if any improvement in the feel and pleasure the music gives. Let me tell you that i loved what you id with that piece and genuinely would like to hear more .
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#131049 - 08/24/06 03:13 PM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Robert ... REAL NICE ... and I don't think I would be too concerned about the general audience realizing that the guitar voicings are incorrect ... how was the drum solo accomplished? ......
you PLAY man !!! ... WELL DONE ....
THIS is what this forum is about ...
THANK YOU
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#131050 - 08/24/06 04:06 PM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
RobertG Offline
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Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 464
Loc: Southeastern PA, USA
MO: Mark of the Unicorn (MOTU) Ethno can be found at www.motu.com I happened to pick up the September issue of Electronic Musician today and the cover story is about ethnic instruments so after reading it I may consider other options that I didn't know about.

Tony/Spalding: I agree to not worry about authentic voicings. If it sounds good, it's all good.

Tony: Drum solo is part of the standard Tyros 2 style called Bebop. I guess you could do something similar with drum loops and multipads. I agree this is what the forum should be about. That is why I wrote the description of how I used the instrument hoping for the type of dialog that has resulted.


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#131051 - 08/25/06 04:56 AM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Robert, great work. Thanks for contributing such a positive thread. BTW SD1 isn't very heavy.
DonM
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#131052 - 08/25/06 07:42 AM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
Robert, great job! Very enjoyable and definitely not very recognizable as an arranger piece.
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#131053 - 08/25/06 08:33 AM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
RobertG Offline
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Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 464
Loc: Southeastern PA, USA
Don: Not too heavy and 76 keys would be most welcome. I understand that the SD1 is about 5 years old and due for an update and there is only 64 notes of polythony. Have heard good things about Ketron but it is hard to find one to audition as compared to the offerings of our friends in Japan. With more polythony and use of newer tech like Yamaha SA sounds or Roland's guitar emulator I would give Ketron a good listen.

Cassp: Nice to hear that you thought that the variation I used made it non-arranger sounding. That was truly my goal of the experiment.

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#131054 - 08/25/06 08:55 AM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Loc: USA
Cool Stuff!!

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#131055 - 08/25/06 09:03 AM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
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Registered: 08/22/06
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Loc: NY
Excellent job!
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#131056 - 08/25/06 09:27 AM Re: Jazz experiment on T2 uploaded
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Hi Robert: finally had a chance to sit down and listen to your T2 "Jazz Experiment" of mixing & matching select variations from different jazz styles. It's a "KiLLER" auto accomp rendition for sure, as it captures (as much as can be achieved on an auto accomp arranger) the spontaneous feel of a jazz combo rhythm section. In addition to what you've already done well, I might suggest (for even more splash) importing even more different drum fills into variations and/or intro-endings & breaks, or trigger via multipads, drum hits spontanously in the song. Robert, Thanks for sharing with us your impressive keyboard rendition of "Killer Joe". Good stuff.

Scott
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