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#105326 - 07/12/07 11:28 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Diki Offline
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 12861
Loc: NW Florida
Nick, you are getting shafted, then (or are those list prices, as opposed to street?)...

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#105327 - 07/13/07 09:36 AM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4683
Loc: West Virginia
Nick,

See what I've been telling you about the build quality of a pro synth (like your Motif XS) compared to the build quality of Yamaha's Pro Arranger Tyros II..??? It's like night and day!

It really irks me to be honest. Look at the difference in build quality Nick between the two, then look at the difference in price--it just becomes harder to justify Yamaha's VERY high price tag on their Pro Arrangers when you campare the "physical quality" of them to other makers.

When I demoed the T2.., I honestly liked what I heard, but man I just couldn't get passed that cheap plastic construction of that keyboard. Plus that big old $3,500 price tag--in bold RED numbers right in front of me was hard to swallow.

I was just baffled because the key action was so damn sweet, but every time I pressed a button it was just blahhhhh.
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#105328 - 07/13/07 12:57 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 42572
Squeak.....could it be that Yammy arrangers should stay home where not much damage could occur......when their synths are made more rugged for Pro uses on the road

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 07-13-2007).]

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#105329 - 07/13/07 01:08 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10598
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
My 3k has gigged with me for 3 years...reliability was exemplary...initial price was low enough so that I was making money with it right away.

Plastic is STRONG and LIGHT...remember?

S900 will be a great replacement...still easy to carry, set up and pay for.

I have lots of clients that use the 3k for pro jobs...they are all just as satisfied as I am.

Ian
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#105330 - 07/13/07 01:15 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3353
Loc: The World
those prices are recommended retail not street...but it should be pointed out that the xs8 comes with a bit mroe than the 7 or 6...built in computer interface, vocoder etc..options only on the others...when it became available i couldv'e got an xs7 for about the same as the sd1+ (under $3500AUS) but there were none available and were not going to be so for several weeks (at the time i bought the sd1+)...mind you i am now considering a move to the Kurzweil WEIGHTED action 76 note piano with the new Ketron SD3 module (the sd5 in module form) might depend on dollars though..
dennis

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#105331 - 07/13/07 02:22 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Songman55 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 892
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
I used a Roland G 800 then a G 1000 for quite a few years. Back then I was still playing in clubs, so the board could sit on top of the grand piano for several days. In recent years I've switched to private parties and retirement communities. With all that moving around the Tyros made more sense. I've been using one for a year now with a hard case. It even got drenched during an outside wedding ceremony and it still plays great. The 76 key thing was hard for me to get around at first because I am a pianist, but I got used to pressing the buttons to extend the board when I need it. If it breaks tomorrow, I'll get something else, but for now, I just did 5 days worth of doubles and it's kicking butt.

Joe

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#105332 - 07/13/07 03:09 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 42572
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
My 3k has gigged with me for 3 years...reliability was exemplary...initial price was low enough so that I was making money with it right away.

Plastic is STRONG and LIGHT...remember?

S900 will be a great replacement...still easy to carry, set up and pay for.

I have lots of clients that use the 3k for pro jobs...they are all just as satisfied as I am.

Ian


Ian good to see your up and about again....hope all is well.

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#105333 - 07/13/07 03:09 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
rikkisbears Online   content
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 5744
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Diki,
we do get "shafted" over here. Our aussie dollar a few years back dropped to just over 50 cents compared to the US dollar. Now that our dollars gone back up to just over 80 cents, our keyboard prices really don't really reflect the increase in value of our dollar.

Envious of the prices the USA members pay for their keyboards.

I think the prices Nick quoted may have been what we call "Retail" . Most places will discount up to 20% to 25% off retail price. Case of shopping around.
best wishes
Rikki

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#105334 - 07/14/07 03:13 AM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10598
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
I simply don't get it...

If Yamaha think that 'pros' need a choice of 61, 76 and 88 keys for their Motif line, why do arranger users only need 61 for their 'pro' Tyros2...?
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I don't get it either Diki...why doesn't Roland make a 61-key version of their G70?

The E-80 doesn't really count as it has speakers and is a "home" keyboard.

I'm sure there are many players out there who would not buy a G70 because of it's weight and size....

Ian
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#105335 - 07/14/07 09:24 AM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Nick G Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1042
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
RRP for the XS 6 is $4500.00 AUD.

if u walk in off the street u will get it for $3400.00 easy.
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