Dreamer! Did not mean to be hard on you! At times a response can seem that way but is not intended to be. To Uncle Dave's point there are those out there playing every night and need plug and play equipment. For those who enjoy the comfort of one's home or studio than certainly your thought process will work quit well! I agree a Bosa Nova Is a Bosa Nova now and forever!!

so.....you're saying:
"Blame it on the Bossa Nova" ???????
(Forgive me Miss Edie! )

Hi all,

It's funny nobody mentions the Roland E600 as a good arranger. The styles are really great just like the stereo-sampled piano sounds (that's roland). I can't find many Roland E600 users to share my thoughts about it.
The E600 has a touchscreen, a lot of digital effects, and vocal harmony function. But because of that the Roland E600 is not really in the picture
It's strange that even on the roland site there is not much support for the Roland E600... i hope some Roland E600 users will reply on this message.

Greeting,
Kim

Kim, I had a E-600 for a while,at the same time I had a G1000 and a VA-7... The E lacked an EV-5 pedal input making it not as useable for me. The harmonizer and mic input with effects was useful, even better than trying to use a mic into the Variphrase for vocals[poor signal] on the VA. The lack of a Hard drive or Zip on the E is another reason I could not use it[ floppies are a poor choice on the job].. Overall the only one of the 3 that made sense for me is the G1000, better flexibility[ with buttons. pedals and sliders] and a zip system that allowed switching from sequence play to live play much easier..True there is no mic input. but given the better quality of my outboard set up, I am ahead of the game. The G1000 also feels much better and the extra range [76 keys] suits me. The new sounds on the VA are nicer[Scats ,guitar] but not worth the performance sacrifices. TheE has some nice sounds but not enough variations and choices..The VA style morph is great and simple, but more detail can be done with the G, although more complicated.. Overall I did like the E-600, but rate it last of this group just behind the VA-7..Fran

MY MY How Times Change

I wonder in 4 or 5 yrs I can bring back a post like this about the T2

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I still own my K2600S which still easily
competes with todays arrangers on most sounds The K is now more then six years old.

The only change since then is that I am gigging a lot these days but not with an arranger

Thanks for bringin'up

Technics did make some fine units I loved my KN5000...........I bet many people miss their line of KB's........maybe they'll make a comback in another form soon.........?

The MZ2000 borrowed much of it's design and features from the KN5000. It was quite the board with a lot of useful features and a great onboard sound editor to boot, which was light years ahead of any other arranger I've used and probably better than the Motif ES without using add on software ( Korg's PA80 editor lets you go deeper but is so unintuitive ) .

Notwithstanding it's brand name and its' lack of a vocal harmonizer, I think what killed it was that lacked in that one specific area that is absolutely essential in an arranger.. the styles. There were a few good ones, but most were just plain uninspiring.

AJ

Apart from the cost and such of a new arranger, I don't know that I'd be all that much happier than I still am with my aging Korg i30. I know it can do more than I'll ever ask of it, but the beauty of it is that, over time, you get so familiar with it you can just about fly it with your eyes shut, which is a huge asset when playing live.