Diki. I hear your experience and respect it but if i had to do all that to tell whether the internal sound i was hearing was decent i would not buy the instrument.I dont buy keyboards often and certainly dont keep them for less than 5 years so when i purchase i need to be confident that i have the right tool for me. I have listened to many many keyboards in shopsover the years.I am a salesmans worst nightmare because i only buy when i am good and ready. If the instrument does not sound good through decent headphones and other keyboards in the same shop do then i wont buy it .If it is sold with internal speakers and they sound poor i might still buy it if through external amplification it can be made to sound great but for my purposes good internal speakers are a deal maker or breaker. The E80 sounds great through headphones. It sounds great through external speakers. But so far in my limited experience it does not sound great through its internal speakers and when the sales people cant get it to sound good and the pruduct specialist cant either it gives me concern about its speakers as i am sure it would anyone else including you . If Roland want to continue to make the purchaseing decision this hard for its customers then so be it.

When i bought my Pax i was sold on the sound from the internal speakers. I was at fairdeal music in birmingham England and a guy was demoing the pax for another customer.I kept looking for the amps around the shop floor and could not find them. Then i realised the sound was coming from the keyboards own speakers. Thats all i needed to hear.

I am happy that Bebop is getting great sound from his E80 and i think your sugestion that he get screen prints of the EQ seting is excelent. You can be assured that i will print them off and take them to Sound control at my earliest convenince and i will be happy to report back on my findings. I like the instrument a lot but this is getting silly.