It is not the healthcare that I am disagreeing with you really, it is the paying for it and the ability to "enforce" the same mentality on equalness on everyone to get it done.

Even here in Australia, we have free medical ( to a point) it is very cheap and then when you get past a threshold it is free. That includes hospital and dential and medicatrions etc.

But here the paid medical or if you pay your own (and get your choice or surgeon/ doctor ) and treatments is far lower than in the USA by far. When Barack Obama was in office his Obamacare pushed costs through the roof for those who paid; as someone has to pay.

Here is an article that states three (3) countries that tried Socialism and then rejected it since it failed......and it will surprise you which countries; but Crossover ha mentioned one already.

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/three-nations-tried-socialism-and-rejected-it

Three key points of the article are:-


1. Israel, India, and the United Kingdom all adopted socialism as an economic model following World War II.

2. Socialism is guilty of a fatal conceit: It believes its system can make better decisions for the people than they can for themselves.

3. Socialism has failed in every country in which it has been tried.

Conclusion for them:- Israel’s socialist miracle turned out to be a mirage, India discarded socialist ideology and chose a more market-oriented path, and the United Kingdom set an example for the rest of the world with its emphasis on privatization and deregulation. Whether we are talking about the actions of an agricultural country of 1.3 billion, or the nation that sparked the industrial revolution, or a small Middle Eastern country populated by some of the smartest people in the world, capitalism tops socialism every time.

Healthcare for all is awesome, but a socialist state can't work for long and people being people, the rich minority will take all and the middle class and poor will all suffer and be poorer in the end; leaving a very unhealthy healthcare system.

But, if you can find a country that it has worked for years for all equally, please prove me wrong, since I still would love to get people a better system for the average man, woman and child. Then we can get the Pollies to make it happen........


Allan