Gary, I'm not going to pursue this because I agree that it probably DOES belong in The Bar. However, there have been numerous non-Arranger topics (many started by YOU) that have been introduced here in this forum and met with absolutely no negativity at all; why?

Since you're probably the only social conservative atheist I know, if and when we ever meet, I won't know whether to give you a hug or put on a Kevlar vest (I think I'll do both).

I don't see myself as a role model for anyone but I am VERY proud of two young ladies from INNER CITY Philadelphia that I sponsored in aviation camp and mentored when they were 14 and 15, who went on to become Captains at a regional airline and will most certainly get hired by one of the majors in time.

I don't dwell on my time in the military (10 years, not a career) but since I left, I have been involved in a number of charitable organizations, most notably, Habitat for Humanity. Getting too old for the long trips anymore so I devote most of my time to local Veteran's organization and the Democratic Party (such as it is, in this neck of the woods).

As far as these 'activist' musicians and entertainers not being anywhere near a war zone, I don't feel that is necessary to take a stand for or against something you believe in. It could be that they may be far more effective for their causes by taking advantage of their bully pulpits.

JMO.

chas