I think Nigel has tried to make it as clear as possible that he'd like this topic to end. He's already shut it down twice. How much of a 'hint' do you need.

chas

BTW, no one enjoys discussing religion and politics more than me but if the forum administrator doesn't want the 'heat' it usually generates on THIS forum, I think we should abide by that.
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