Thanks for your valuable info George! You seemed to have answered my question re- effects- I thought that 8 insert fx mean't the same effects system as the Trinity keyboard- up to 8 size '1' insert effects! Also Do the Mic Pre's have phantom power- this is an important issue with me so I can use a Rode NT2 (or other condenser) without having to buy an external mic pre. Is it much more easier to use than say a VS1680 because of the touchview screen? Thanks for an info in advance! Cheers.