So, disagreeing with you is due to tunnel vision, John? That's a pretty high degree of regard you have for JUST your opinion..!

The world consumes more American music than any other non-native form. In fact, most pop music around the world (including Cliffy's stuff) owes its form and sound to American music. Jazz, rock and roll, hiphop, these all have huge influence around the world. Cliffy couldn't cut it here. It was easy to spot how derivative he was. We already had far better, and more original.

And even England had better and more original. Don't forget, that's where I am originally from. Cliffy was a contemporary of the Beatles, the Stones... He is a minor player in that company.

Don't get me wrong... Cliffy's OK... but to put him in the pantheon of geniuses and masters from that era is a stretch.

Tunnel vision, you might even say... rotf2
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