Originally Posted By: abacus
Come off it Spalding, 15-20 years ago that demo played on a Workstation would have been very good, nowadays however it just shows how limited arrangers are.

BTW: If you can find some recordings of Peter Baartmans playing Kurzweil in the 80s, then do so, as they will easily blow away any modern day arranger both in sound and capabilities. (In case you’re interested the Kurzweils he is playing were released in about 1983 so are almost 30 years old)

Bill


Why is it you continually miss the point Bill.

First of all Niether Petter Baartmans or anyone else 30 years ago could have done this demo on a workstation because he would have had to programme the drums , horns etc in a sequencer and would not have been able change , styles,go back to the original pattern , play variation 1-4 ,drop in and out sounds at wil as intuitively as an arranger. The workstations of the day were not set up like that and in the main are still not like that .
What exactly are you disagreeing with in terms of my statement ?

If people percieve that Arrangers cannot deeply edit sounds or import and alter sounds/samples , what makes you think that peole interested in sound and sample manipulation might not start to get intersted once they realise exactly how deeply sounds and samples can be altered on modern arrangers ?

What makes you think that the average workstation users has any appreciatio of sound manipulation and sampling generally nevermind what the differences are between a workstation and an arranger ?????

Go on any workstatio forum and see the discussions that are taking place currently whether hats the roland clan forum , korg forum, neko forum etc. See what sorts of comments and quetions come up time and time again. Yu will find that the level of knowledge generally amongst workstation owners is very basic just like that of arranger owners generally. They buy the product based upon perception not actual knowledge for the most part. Even the pros for the most part only dig into the bits of the keyboard they are interested in and leave 80-90% of the instruments capabilities untouched.

Tell you what


Post up some demos of peter baartmans on the Kurzweil for us and then we can debate whether anything done in the demo could not be reproduced function for function on todays arramngers.