Thanks Alex K,I will certainly will post anything I come up with to resolve this problem.However,the only way foreward for me to get the VA out of the house and take it to work, was to start from scratch,ground zero (!)hence the reason its taken me so long to check out this message board.You can imagine the work involved!I miss my wife & child (although we live in the same house)I miss fresh air and sunshine,eating,sleeping,Im becoming paranoid people are staring at the LARGE V imprinted on my face that my wife assures me is not really there (we met briefly in the bathroom 10 days ago)BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ROLAND or alternatavely choose patch gbn 7/pc 127/ccOO 7/CC32 4 small club.