Well, I wrote emagic, anyway..........letting them know what I thought, and you have a good point about Roland not knowing, but with the benefit of the doubt, I can say maybe it was just tested poorly?????? But they should know just what they're getting if they don't. My point being that Roland brought emagic from obscurity to fame so to speak. There are many editors on the market. And I also told them that if they didn't believe that bulletin boards worked, to check thier sales figures in about 6 months. It looks to me that the XP-30 is gaining popularity at a quick pace. In effect, I'm just glad to be able to see my instruments in a database setting SoundDiver up manually, but in principle, it's a scam. And I will definitely make my feelings known to both Roland and eMagic, and I hope everyone does as well. I'll keep you posted..........yuda1