BTW, of course feel free to pile on MY opinion, because it's simply based on listening to factory demos.

But it's curious how none of you have said WORD ONE about mrdave's personal, up close and direct A/B comparison of Atelier and G70. I know I'm everyone favorite debating partner, but to keep repeating the same old line because it's easy to try to browbeat someone that hasn't stood in the real thing's presence (but apparently has ears - me, I'm more impressed with the recorded sound of something than it's live 'aura'!... you can't beat a decent blind test), but here's a guy who DID listen VERY carefully to the Atelier. And has, let's just be kind and say a contrary opinion to yours...

And what do you say to THAT...?

Crickets chirping...