Originally posted by cassp:
Chas,
Methinks you have spoken too much on this sub-subject; most of it pure crap.
There wasn't a hint of fecal matter here until THAT sentence, cassp. But at least it serves to demonstrate your attitude and vocabulary.... My condolences.
Originally posted by cassp:
This forum is for people who PLAY arrangers, if you're going to knock the use of the new developments maybe you should expect some criticism.
This forum is rapidly turning into one for people that press 'Play', not actually PLAY the arranger, as big a difference as perhaps between those that play keyboards, and those that hold down a one finger chord, and play a simple melody over it, and claim they know how to 'play music'.
It's not whether it's one finger, two finger, seven finger, whatever, it whether the bloody chords are RIGHT with whatever method you chose, or whether the melody is correct or whether you can play a solo over the changes that isn't embarrassing to listen to. Which, from listening to innumerable user demos over the last couple of years, I would say is darn few...
The thing is, an arranger makes it possible to play something that sounds pretty decent (if you have no idea in the first place) out of something that, if played on a keyboard that didn't actually do everything for you, would sound like the worst thing you ever heard. But whether you allow this to convince yourself that YOU are actually playing it all, or stay honest and try to recognize that you are merely the conduit for the ARRANGER to actually play it will be a sign of your integrity and musical honesty.
Simple question.... are you playing the arranger, or is it playing you?
If you are going to PROMOTE the use of new developments and technologies, perhaps you should expect some criticism, also...

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OTOH... lyrics viewers, sheet music displays? Best thing since sliced bread! You don't HAVE to use them (as you don't HAVE to use almost any auto stuff in an arranger, depending on skill level), but they are sure handy when you do... After all, no-one criticizes the NY Philharmonic for using charts, or the Duke Ellington Orchestra, despite those being players that could easily memorize their charts

Ah.... technology

Some of it enhances the player, and some of it diminishes him or her. Which part you chose to embrace says a lot about your musicianship...