I am always amazed at how some people try to legitimize their illegal actions. While mischaracterizing the issue at hand.

Diki posted: �Posting a recording of a cover of a tune on an obscure little forum for arranger users, for no other reason than to show each other their style or work, is of no concern to the copyright holder. But as I said, they DO haver the right to request
it be removed if they so choose. And if they did, I would have no problem with compliance.�
Notice in that post in describing his actions, we did not see the words �steeling�, �legally copyrighted� or �colluding�. We saw words aimed at softening and legitimizing the action by using �obscure little forum�.

Then he describes Dom�s actions as: �keyboard manufacturer colluding with another individual to steal the legally copyrighted soundset IN IT'S ENTIRETY (or close enough that it doesn't matter)
and the styles of a competitor's product, because his are not competitive.�

In that excerpt, We can see the change of tone by the words used and the mischaracterization of what Dom is doing and what the mediastation is.

I am not saying whether what Dom is doing is right or wrong legal or illegal, but I think it would be wise of us, in order to have this discussion to understand what is being done and not being done.

1. Dom is taking only selected sounds (not all of the sounds from the T2) from the T2 and making them playable in the mediastation.
2. All the nuances and the specific articulations of each sound are not going to be there when you play them in the mediastation.
3. The sounds are not replacing the onboard sounds of the mediastation.

I think that some of the misconceptions stem from the fact that some people on the forum still don�t understand the concept of the mediastation. They are still thinking in terms of a closed keyboard system like the BIG 3 and their business model.
A statement like �his are not competitive� demonstrates this.

I think it is disingenuous when copyright holders conveniently characterize a new and cutting edge technology technique or business venture as �steeling� �illegal� and �wrong� when they are not the ones doing the actions. But when they are the ones doing the actions i.e. the original samplers of acoustic instruments, it was right, legal and not steeling.

Lets face it the music industry is such that most persons are trying to benefit as much as they can from other�s work. We are always trying to push the envelope to see how much we can do with out going through a lot of expenses.

I don�t think any of us as arranger players can get on our moral high-horse and make it sound like we do everything to be just to everyone else in the industry. By playing arrangers, we are intentionally cutting out lots of other persons from working. Why because we want to make more money. Instead of playing in a band with other instrumentalist, we use and arranger that has samples of those instruments, technology that causes those instruments to play by them selves by us pressing a chords (styles) and some of you all don�t make your own styles. And I could have used harsh words (like how some people use the word steel) to describe what I just said I could have said we cheat by using arrangers and that you all are too lazy and incompetent to make your own styles (but I am not going to say it like that).

Big companies in the music industry are usually adverse to new technology if they are not the ones controlling it. They make the little people argue their points using the �moral� argument but they know they are only concerned with one thing, MONEY. As long as they are making all the MONEY, they are really not concerns who they have to hurt to do so. I would not be surprised if Yamaha or some other company would be trying to buy out the person or persons that have the technology to get the T2 sounds to another format. We will just have to wait and see how this all plays out because we don�t know where Yamaha or other keyboard companies are going with their newer keyboard technology.