Originally posted by pasadoble:
Diki...I think your problem of not really accepting arrangers as a legitimate performing tool comes from a deep seated doubt about your own personal musical abilities! you've convinced yourself that if you play an arranger keyboard your not as good as a musician performing in a live
band.
I on the other hand recognise that arrangers have a place in the
performers arsenal and I happy to use one with absolutely no qualms, criticism of
them and hang-ups about using them. I am a highly confident musician and can
play anything in any situation be it in a live band or on an arranger...and
may I say I also mix both together too where I perform in a duo where I mute
all the parts except the drums and the bass is played by a live bass
player, I handle all the keyboard and we both sing...I have to ask you because I find you and your points of
view on arrangers fascinating...when do you consider the use of an arranger
keyboard in a live situation ''Not Cheating'' ??? If I add a guitar or horn part does it immediately become cheating ??
You see being a pro musician requires you to adapt to changing trends and you personally have got to lose that 'oh my god I'm ( and most of the players on this forum) using an auto-accompaniment keyboard I (they) must be inferior to someone playing keyboard in a live band' or unable to carry themselves in a live band' attitude.
If your comfortable with yourself as a musician and you know you have the
abilities for playing piano, keyboard and organ to a high standard be it
live or arranger, I can assure you, you will not be as critical of arrangers
and their use as is obvious from viewing
your acidic and confused ratings....you harp on about the joy of working with other musicians...I personally feel that with arrangers its man and machine working in perfect harmony together...yes it can be done...if you have the prior musical ability to achieve it...have you got it Diki...have 'YOU' got it!
[This message has been edited by pasadoble (edited 07-21-2007).]
Ah.... when in doubt, personally attack the poster...
If ignorance is bliss, let me make you less happy... I use arrangers (and have been doing so for 15 years or more) in pretty much ALL my live performance work, whether solo duo, or even with a full band. I have absolutely no qualms about using them. I find them to be far more practical keyboards for live work that most workstations. I never apologize to anyone for using one, and to be honest, after hearing me play, I have NEVER had anyone ever come up to me and disparage me for using an arranger...
I have not claimed once any of the complete rubbish you just posted (you might try actually reading my posts, instead of reading INTO my posts what you want to). No-one is inferior if they use an arranger (or if they are, I am too!).
BUT... having played with musicians like Steve Gadd, Bernard Purdie, Luther Vandross, Jon Bon Jovi, Eric Gale, and many others (I'm not as worried about my abilities as you think!), there is no way that I can ever claim my arranger is better than a good live band. But if you feel better about yourself comparing yourself to mediocrities, have at it. Whatever works.
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