It seems to me that everyone here is chucking around brickbats at one keyboard or another, but no-one likes to 'fess up what kind of music they play on their arranger, or how great their experience is, or how they use them.

For one person, only the styles in their particular favorite genre determines the worth of a keyboard, another may hate 'tweaking' and feel it should sound perfect (to them), out of the box, yet another may feel that the piano sound is the bellwether of perfection.

Quantized styles may not be your cup of tea if you're looking at jazz and ballroom styles, but are necessary in most pop music. The 'sound' of the tones and how well they work in your particular genre favorite often determine how well you like one arranger over another, and Style Conversion Software can go a long way to get a type of style from one manufacturer to another, but it involves work.

Personally, I always (mostly!) work with a guitarist, so for me that sound isn't quite as important as a good piano sound, and I don't care how good all the sounds are if the keybed doesn't feel smooth and comfortable (and have at least 76 keys - I actually PLAY the piano).

Your mileage may vary.

Don't forget that familiarity with a previous product goes a LONG way in determining how we feel about a new keyboard. There are MANY things I miss from my G1000 that are different on my G70, but for me, the GrandX (from the FantomX) and the V-Drum Kits are such a HUGE improvement over the G1000 that I MUST use it, and get used to it.

Do I wish it had wave/mp3 playback - you betcha! Do I wish the Tyros2 had 76 keys - you betcha! NONE are perfect, ALL have shortcomings, and posts that you hate XYZ arranger without a post about what you hate in the arranger you have is hypocritical.

We've all spent a FORTUNE on these top-of-the-line Arrangers, so perhaps denigrating others is how we can justify the expense to ourselves, but I wish more of us would just say that we are capable of sitting in front of ANY of these 21st century wonders and entertaining ourselves and an audience. I know I can...........