Hey Tom, I have to defend my PA80. Yes, there are some on Ebay, but they don't sell them below $1500.00. I happen to have a PA80, X1, KN6500, Psr740 & Psr2000 and I seem to be using the PA80 a lot lately, though I have to say, it isn't the easiest to navigate. I am not too happy with the fills, but get around it by subing w/ the intro's & endings and I do like being able to break w/ just hitting the keys harder. I think the PA, is just in a learning curve.