"There is none so blind as he that WILL not see".

I don't know how carefully you read my thread, but I'd say that you missed the gist of it. Because of the above quote, I'd say further discussion of this is pointless. I think what I was trying to say was pretty clear if read with an open (ie. non-defensive) mind.

John, Tony; I know you're both good people. I have no desire to create such an environment of hyper-sensitivity and/or political correctness that no one feels comfortable expressing their thoughts, feelings, and ideas. Having said that, I also feel that there are very few instances on a board such as this, where race or ethnicity would be needed to ensure clarity.

Tony, please re-read my post,....slowly and carefully.

Thanks,

chas